No I haven't visited that group yet, I'm new in this website and still learning how to navigate through it .

If you are that disgruntled with that group, I must ask again why do you bother staying a member? I am both conservative and anti progressive liberal, with a few of the social based issues I find myself in agreement with the left, and there is nothing wrong with that. In all honesty I've actually had more productive conversations with religious folks over the years than I have with those who identify as liberal progressive, are you implying that there is something wrong with that? You asked for sources and I mentioned a few (which in turn could be backed up by other sources on the net that had mentioned the same thing), but that wasn't good enough for you though. Sometimes I think those on social media do these sort of things just to be argumentative to others, and when you approach others in a condescending manner chances are pretty good you won't get far with them, which is why up to now I've largely ignored you. For what it's worth, I see those from various political viewpoints downing other views, so the conservative group on here is not a special or unique instance, and by chance did you swing by one of the leftist groups on here to see what kind of venom they spew? My bottom line is, if the conservative group bums you out that much keep in mind you're not a prisoner to it. Geez, the last thing anyone on this site needs is to get bummed out over what a particular group says or what their politics are they follow. I don't bother much anymore with the public threads precisely because I lack sufficient time to dedicate to any debate/arguing that could occur from certain posts, and most members of the conservative group don't have alot of time as well and just wish to be left alone. Wish there was more time in a day, just saying...

@SpikeTalon
Yep, see my other comments in leftist groups. I said nothing derogatory about you or the group members. Desiring a strong leader is not negative, but it's not for everyone.

Maybe not you, but I see many members of the conservative groups as well as others I encounter in my daily life as anti-liberal, not so much conservative. They think the default of being anti-liberal is a conservative, but that is incorrect. It only shows their polemic nature, not their ideology.

As for credible sources, it's not an arbitrary process nor is it as simple as many believe. If I submitted any papers in academia or in my current field without using established methods and sources that withstand the environment of increased unverified variables that we currently live, I'd fail or get removed from my position. It takes years to cultivate the ability to decipher quality info from fallacy.

You never answered my question from the other exchange.

Seems the terms ‘liberal or progressive’ are the opposite from ‘conservative or regressive.’ What I’ve consistently witnessed are those labeling themselves ‘conservative’ looking to keep things either the way they are, or were. With that, the way they were was extremely religious, with that being the direction they’re shoving others..

Liberals or progressives appear the only ones advocating for freedom from religion ..though I’ve met far too many apparently incapable of breaking their ties to some kind of mythology…

@Varn Yes, and until recently, i shared the same view. But now, the far left fails to see the that other religions can be just as bad, just as zealous and pious, as Judeo_christian ones....That's the most salient reason i left the left: their inability to see the radical nature of religious communities that have not had an "Age of Enlightenment".

I think I explained somewhere, couldn't find right now, what I meant when I asked this question . My point of view that when you question, challenge, or reject religions which represent a huge part of people beliefs , then I assume that you have critical thinking, kind of rebellian, and wouldn't accept the conservative perception of social and political issues ..
I agree about overuse of labels, and I have the impression that , labeling everything is an "American talent" ..

@Shaghaf oh yeah, cuz it's easy to simply slap an identity on to something or someone.

@IamBane , and that's makes it more difficult to a "stranger" ( for example, not American, with a darker skin color) to find their places in this society . They talk too much about diversity but I haven't found it yet

@Shaghaf Yet EVERY successful person of color says different. I have never met one that said "Man, I almost didn't make it because of all this racism."....It's all in their head! If u think u can't, u won't. If u think u can, u will------THAT"S IT!

@IamBane i believe that we're talking in different level, plus I don't know what do mean exactly when you say "every successful" person..

@Shaghaf Every=the ones i've met

@ green_eyes. When you say forced ...you mean in reaction to the right?

@Bigwavedave yes, definitely. It’s a defensive mechanism to the hate and bigotry that has become a mainstay of the right.

@Green_eyes I'm sorry this country did that to you.

Congrats on 3 languages!

@Bobby9 yeah, whoa????

@IamBane Are you a GOP, or Trump supporter? If so, I'll block you immediately.

@birdingnut Damn birdnut, ease up on that. Think about what ur saying!...U don't mean that?!?.....that's just as close-minded as a "trump supporter"

Once you reach level 4 if you are interested, you are more than welcome to join- "Conservative Atheists"

Thanks

Right on!!?

i find that too!

I banned you because you decided to comment on one of my posts just to play the "offended card", which is what the political left is known to do. There was really nothing about you hardly that struck me as being even remotely conservative. Believe me, banning you wasn't my favorite thing to do, but there is a clear reason why people on here join groups. I'd contend a good portion of the groups on this site don't care to debate, and there would be nothing wrong with that. I don't bother as much anymore with the public threads because the same topics are brought up constantly, and if I did so to get away from the arguing or debating, why would I want to deal with such within a group that I host?

@SpikeTalon Yes just as I suspected, just a yes group or you are dead, and as far as me not being conservative you just have no clue at all.

@Jolanta Perhaps I don't, I admit I could have been wrong on that, but you disagreed with quite a few of the main conservative stances, which got me wondering. This site is really supposed to be for leisure and maybe fun, not exactly a good thing for some on here to be getting offended, I didn't come to this site to give anyone headaches. Thought it best to just ban you so you wouldn't have to be upset anymore As far as groups go, I'd dare say any group is like that (with the possible exception of a specific debate group maybe) which is why they are called groups, a group of people with similar values and goals and whom would most likely agree with you. If it's any consolation, you could always start your own group...

@SpikeTalon You seem to think that in a group of people everybody will think and feel the same about everything, well I have news for you. In any group there will always be people who have other options especially after they have really looked into a matter. No I am not upset at all, this just proved to me that it is a yes group who only scratches the surface of what is going on. Rather sad I think, after all not much in this world is black and white, and there are many shades of grey too.

@Jolanta Yeah... groups do have some of those who think differently and join said groups in order to start trouble... such individuals are called trolls. I have to slightly disagree with you on the last part, quite a few things in life are one way or the other and a middle ground wouldn't be possible. Good to hear you're not upset though.

@SpikeTalon I am not interested in starting trouble, I guess it is easy to start calling people names when one doesn't agree with something. I always used to think that groups would want to experience different opinions, seems to me that it is almost impossible in the US. How about just agreeing to disagree, no name calling is needed. Yes middle ground in not always possible, however I get exasperated with people who refuse to see another way, especially as in parts of the world that way is working just fine. I totally agree with you that there are things that are just black and white. Good to hear you are not an angry American.

@Jolanta I can agree on the name calling part. I think most groups are usually geared towards whatever subject or topic the group was started for, but there could be exceptions to that I suppose. While my overall politics do lean heavily to the right, truth be told I'm a registered Independent who doesn't really care for either of the two major US parties, it's just that I find myself in agreement more with the right in recent times.

@SpikeTalon I wonder why you do. Sometimes we only look at slogans or headlines without looking into it properly. Although I am social democrat, I am a conservative one but when I look at the right wing conservatives in the US and here in Australia too I wonder how those people sleep at night.

@Jolanta I've often wondered how both Democrats and Republicans sleep at night? Social issues such as equal rights for all and reproductive rights for women I tend to lean left, while economic and financial issues I lean right. In other words a balance of the two, or what in my country would be known as the Libertarian Party.

@SpikeTalon Yes, I too believe in social issues, after all we are all human and what we do to others will also be done to us, that is almost like an eye for an eye.

Those exist?

@birdingnut Yes, but they also tend to be self aware. They admit they support what benefits them most.

I totally agree @ThisGuy