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What would make you believe in a God?

What would need to happen for you to be able to distguish between a God and more advanced technology.

paul1967 8 Sep 22
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First god would have to perform a miracle. Like getting those Trumpty Dumpty voters to admit their egregious error in casting that vote. Then god would have to eliminate suffering. Then god would have to reduce overpopulation of the "virus with shoes." Then god would have to make me a nice lady.

LMAO those would be an indication that a miracle did happen, all except making you a nice lady, that I'm sure you already are.

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Go back in time and have education removed from me after a certain point. Re believe? I don't know.

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i would believe an entity is godlike if it had full control over time, energy, and matter. This would include the ability to travel across the universe instantly, reshape the universe without limits, take me into the past or future and alter events. It would also include making me or anyone immortal including the dead.

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Scientific proof. I believe in the sun, the moon, the planets and asteroids because there is enough proof for me.

SKH78 Level 8 Dec 21, 2017
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PROOF! Doesn't hafta be anything really spectacular, just something that i would recognize as a sign!

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Uhm...the actual existence of a god...

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I don't think you could tell them apart. Some people are already trying to make a god using artificial intelligence. There is a well-known SF story (I forget the author) about someone who builds an all-knowing artificial intelligence and asks it if there is a god. The reply is "There is NOW."

LMAO. I guess if that were true it would be a God of a sort.

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Evidence strong enough to convince me.

If there is a infinite being of any sort, then it would know what that evidence would be.

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If everyone started to worship me as i deserve to be worshipped then i would believe in myself as God 😉

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It would need to be in front of me.

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An interview conducted by me with the so-called diety. I can spot a liar a mile away. My real thought is that a creature of such immense power would exude Godness that couldn't be denied. Why would such a powerful entity mess around with hints and signs and prophets? I believe it's desires would be unavoidable. Conformity would be unanimous and unquestioned.

Concur. The only thing I would add is that I need a couple of people that are present with me while that observation/interview is transpiring.

Yeah I am leary of flashbacks

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A god would need to connect with my inner being in such a way as to prove that not to be merely advanced technology. It seems that the "gods" that have come and gone in our history have been debunked as beings with more knowledge or mechanics than those who worship.

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Emelia Clarke. showing up in my bed as I pull back the covers to get in.......lol

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Verifiable empirical, material evidence, and logical, rational explanation. Beyond all reasonable doubt.
To have the aforementioned evidence verified by others beyond myself, with more substantial understanding of physics, psychology, etc. Experts.
To be able to define the discrepancy between what might constitute a deity(s), be it monotheistic or polytheistic, able to distinguish between the supernatural and the extraterrestrial for instance. Prophecies, powers, none of these would constitute evidence. God, in the monotheistic sense, must be able to control absolutely everything by thought, not just most things or some very substantial things. Be able to clearly demonstrate his/her/it's responsibility for the aforementioned 'everything'. This deity must be able also to explain and to demonstrate it's own origins. Where polytheistic deities are concerned, the ballpark becomes even more complex, given the traditional limitations and arguable 'humanity' that each of them feature. This along with all the other requirements from any monotheistic deity.
I would require this being be able to adequately explain the nature of itself and all it's creation unambiguously and without obtuse language or intermediaries or ancient books - to communicate this to me directly, with independent witnesses of no predispositions. I would require this being to explain all the unpleasant aspects of reality and life and it's creations that immediately affect me and my planet. To explain why famine, disease, genocide, slavery, rape, cruelty to animals, etc, was ever allowed. I would require this being to explain why it has only chosen to offer intervention and revelation in particularly barbaric and illiterate parts of the world some thousand years ago, and very little since, except (as chance would have it) in various people predisposed to certain religions before it even reached them - and why their accounts differ so violently from one another's. And why he did not intervene in any way to offer correction or clarification, or to end or even advise against legislation, conflict or persecution of sects and beliefs, along with people without beliefs and of different natures, ethnicities, etc, except in vague revelations and contradictory old books left in the hands of desert nomads with psychological disorders and other assorted cranks and fanatics.
I would require this being to explain what on earth it was playing at, basically.
And even if it did appear under such circumstances, and could offer such explanations to my satisfaction, I would still require further explanation as to why it deserves or even desires or requires my submission, subservience, reverence and worship. And how any such request or command, assuming it entailed any concept of exclusivity for those who did so and thus some form of perks or rewards, and some form of exclusion or other punishment for those who did not do so, could possibly constitute morality. How creating a life or life form could, by default, morally allow you to command it to THINK, let alone behave, in ways detrimental to it's well being or in ways against it's wishes, on pain of this or that punishment.
That should just about do it. Any takers?

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Materialistic evidence

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What would make me believe in a god? Any god? Proof.

Since it's unlikely I would be able to distinguish between god-like power and a technology far beyond my comprehension it probably wouldn't matter.

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If God appeared in person and proved himself but even then i would not worship a being as sick and twisted.

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To me god is just a word. I believe in a god and many gods. Just semantics. Electricity and energy to me are gods. Money is a god. I sometimes think of myself as a god.

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technology is evolving all the time as well. we use it in our lifetime until something better comes along to replace it! eg we don't have to use flint rock sparks to light our cave fires we have a cookstove now to come on whenever we want fire now.

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if there was a god what ever that is? a body a figure of a bipedal, a spirit that makes tangable things, and sets back to do what? and why? so if there is why would i want to be around this god?

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Short of God walking up to me and introducing himself and then proving it not much...

Concur, but would also like to have a handful of witnesses that were also present during that event just to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.

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[nature.com] My answer. I research med studies. Just the micro nutrient factor alone leads me to see that the body has design in this regard.Cant cover everything.

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First someone needs to define "God" better than it is being represented. I am having trouble with how others assume God is all Loving & Righteous. A lot of times God is based on Cultural Ideas. God of the Jews or other Religions. I find this definition a God that is Racist & Likes Slavery. I may believe there is such a God, but do I want it to rule my Life? What I want for my Life is other issues that serve a better situation than how Cultural "God's" are forced on us. If I think there is a God that is really showing a concern for me, then? I have nothing against that, but? I'm not really seeing that part, other than chauvinism where others really just want us to believe in their Religious God for their choice of Lifestyles about it.

What if there's a god for believers and no god for unbelievers? I have experienced absurdities or co-incidences that I attributed to my Belief system at the time. In denial of god, a natural state, there is no god to deny.

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Nothing, because if god is immortal, but all powerful, and I asked it to kill itself without coming back from the dead; if it doesn't do it, it can't be all powerful, and it does achieve, it can't be immortal

I might be missing something so excuse my question but could he still be all powerful and not agree to your terms? And most educated theist don't use the term "all" anymore because of the obvious logical inconsistencies. They instead refer to God as being maximally powerful. He can do anything within the framework of logical possibilities.

There should be no logic for god

Why would you challenge God to die for you? Jesus died for your sins. Perhaps going backward in time he died as you wanted him to, and in the "Second Coming of Christ" when he comes to show you the proof of his resurrection, I hope he tells you, "Now it is your turn to prove if you are immortal or mortal and let us see if you know how to resurrect or not, just for the Hell of it."

Jesus died on a Friday and rose on a Sunday, so he give up his weekend; what was my sin; if god can do anything, then he would not mind the test, without resurrecting himself; in the words of Christopher Hitchens, I did not ask for him to die for my sins; why punish someone for what two people did,that sounds like North Korea to me

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