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How do you explain to others that you have morals and ethics despite not being religious?

AnnaMD 5 Dec 28
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I don't explain, I demonstrate.

By the time they figure out I'm a godless bastard, amusing levels of cognitive dissonance result.

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Been asked a few times....others have given better explainations....people need only their own rational ability to reason to have ethics and morals.

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I don't waste my time explaining anything to anyone religious. I will give an explanation if asked why I am an A-theist.

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I honestly have no idea. I was raised without religion but have been told by countless people that I'm one of the kindest humans they know. Yet these same people claim that you need religion to have morals... I think this battle is one that will never be won haha and can just be left alone and shrugged off.

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Fear is not a good motive for ethics. "Because God says so" is not a good reason for doing anything. I never understood ethics until I ditched the God myth, and had to build new foundations for understanding right from wrong. I studied and built up my understanding of ethics based on happiness rather than fear. Now I am more happy and ethical than I ever was as a theist.

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why bother? if they need an explanation, they aren't necessarily capable of understanding one. (that's not true of all topics or all explanations, but to even posit the question "how can you have morals without religion?" you have to have a belief system that would balk at an honest answer!

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I tell them that my morality is informed by and for the purpose of guiding my life towards flourishing.

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I don't explain myself to anyone. I just live my life. It is easier that way. People, even your own family, will never see you like you see yourself. Be judged by how you live your life, not by how you explain your life.

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I simply try to explain to them, often without any results sadly, that morals and ethics were a part of human kind long before religions were ever invented.

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Hi ?? I’m a human being and with a human being I recognize other human beings.
And since I can directly relate to other human beings and not invisible god’s I have chosen to accept and treat other human beings as i would want to recognized and treated

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I don't have to explain, at least to those that know me.
Of the friends that I have, some long time, some newer, some are believers, some are not.
The thing is that we judge, or accept might be a better word, each other by the kind of human beings we are, by ourselves, and to others, rather than any belief or political ideal.

Essentially, I like to be in the fold of other good people. My list might not be that big, but I'll favor any one of them in a heartbeat.

And in all of the cases of friends, at least to me, it takes a while to really get to know someone, a price btw, that I will gladly pay.

If asked by another that I don't know, about my morals and ethics, I will gladly , calmly explain my point of view.
After that it's in their court, if they have a problem, well, tfb. And I will just walk away. I don't think I have the need nor desire to argue with those that are unaccepting.

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I point out that most people I've seen that are religious, have little or no morals. They are phony as F.

Keech Level 5 Dec 28, 2018
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"Being a moral, kind and good person is a daily choice," I explain. "I don't need a Bible or church to tell me how to behave."

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I don’t need to...my friends all know it . Just be a moral person....religion didn’t invent morals. Man invented religion, morals are innate we don’t need religion to tell us right from wrong.

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Again, if you need a promise of an eternal reward and the threat of eternal torture to coerce you to act morally and ethically; you have no business questioning my morals and ethics.

JimG Level 8 Dec 28, 2018
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Dogs are loving, caring and affectionate without god - are we humans less inherently capable of morality than dogs?

In most cases, yes.

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I simply tell them that my moral code is built on the idea of treating all people and the environment with dignity and respect and making choices based on minimum violation pg the environment and of the dignity of people. I tell them that I am responsible for my action and choices and their consequences as In each case, I could have chosen otherwise.

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You don't have to be religious to live by the Golden Rule

lerlo Level 8 Dec 28, 2018
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That is one of my favorite questions from theists. First I have them recognize their definition of (moral) as that which pleases their god. Then I site their bible and use the story of how Zephyra, to please his god, killed his young daughter, cut her up and burned her parts because his god Yahweh enjoys the smell of burning flesh. This was a moral act. Slaver, OK in the bible, bears eating children because they teased a balding priest, happy/blessed is the one who seizes your infants and smashes their heads into rocks the list goes on. FUN! Then I tell them I find what their bible defines as moral acts reprehensible and my definition of morality does not require a petty god to mandate barbaric rules. We, as a species, evolved as a social creature and the we benefit as a society when we treat each other the way we would wish to be treated. I usually continue for a very long topic but this hits the high points.

Where in the bible is the story of Zephyra? So I can cite it for others

@AnnaMD Judges 11:29-40 NLT I would recommend checking out this link [evilbible.com] for lots of goodies.

@NoMagicCookie Thanks for the source! I don't think that I could use evilbible when talking to Christians. They wouldn't really like it that much lol

@AnnaMD I use evilbible a lot when dealing with arrogant theists. Evilbible sites their bible so you can use biblical citation and disregard evilbible as the pointer to their bible. Still using their holy book to establish your premise.

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No need to explain it. Just walk the walk.

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Praxis, the combination of theory and practice. You discuss what morality and/or ethics means in fact. These concepts have changed fundamentally by time, culture, etc.Then you evidence what is moral and/or ethical to you. I essentially treat others well and with respect unless they act in some egregiously heinous ways towards others.

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I tell them that believing in an imaginary sky creature does not dictate my morality

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Evolution is a very slow-moving train. The environment is capable of moving much faster at times. Evolution gave us the basic ingredients of morals and ethics during a time (the Pleistocene) when our relationship to our environment was essentially that of hunter-gatherer. Then about twelve thousand years ago we did an oopsie - we invented agriculture.

This invention precipitated a profound shift in our immediate environment, both geographically and socially. Instead of living a nomadic life, we became livers-in-place. Living in place created many, powerful, theretofore unencountered supernormal stimuli such as endless abundance of food, constant exposure to large numbers of people many of whom were strangers, the accumulation of money and power, etc., etc.

Evolution created morality but it had no way of anticipating the effects agriculture would have on our species, so we did what we always do when our environment shifts faster than evolution can... we made the necessary corrections in that part of our being that is more readily malleable: culture. We designed cultural correctives in the form of organized religion (and law) to extend our natural sense of ethics to cover the new supernormal temptations we had created for ourselves.

We are no longer, and never again will be, "natural" animals. We have outpaced natural selection and are now performing artificial selection upon ourselves and other species. We counterbalance these evolutionary mismatches with cultural remedies we sometimes call religious and at other times prefer to call secular, but at all times are in need of, and will be as long as we exist. No modern human is without the moral compass evolution provided (well, maybe psychopaths), and no modern human, save perhaps the rare feral human, is without the need for some kind of artificial morality for coping with the artificial environment we have created for ourselves, regardless of whether we characterize that guide as religious or secular.

skado Level 9 Dec 28, 2018

@skado I like the way you think. Very accurately and eloquently said. Thank you.

@Amzungu2
Thank you.

@kenriley
None taken. 🙂

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“Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.”

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"Never complain and never explain." Benjamin Disraeli

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