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What does "coffee" mean to you?

Twice since my last divorce, I have agreed to coffee with guys. To me, coffee just means that I don't really know who the guy is, but I may have seen him around or spoken with him a bit and he seems decent enough to get to know a little better. Maybe if I get to know him well enough to trust him that far, we could become friends soon. Yes, theoretically it could go farther than that eventually, but right now I don't even know him well enough to know if I want to be friends. That's just the next step of getting to know someone a little better.

The first guy seemed to think that coffee meant that I was ready to jump into something right away, and kept texting me about how sexy I was and asking if I was going to kiss him when we got together for coffee. He didn't catch the hint when I said that for now, I just want a chance for us to get to know each other better, and kept going on about kissing. He also didn't catch the hint when I said that all these texts were making me uncomfortable (the first text couldn't have been a full minute after I'd walked around the corner, and I quickly lost count of how many texts he'd sent, and they were rapidly sounding more explicit. Within 18 hours, I had to explain that he was making me so uncomfortable that I was going to have to cancel (to which he insulted me and told me he was only trying to give me a compliment).

Next one, long story short, within 3 days I had warning signs and then he was making sex jokes, 5 days I was looking for a way to let the guy down easy because he seemed to have gotten the idea we were in a committed relationship when actually I was thinking even the friendship thing might not work at all (stuff like telling me it was okay with him if I wanted male friends, so long as he didn't have any reason to think something was going on) but with every contact he seemed to be having a rougher day where he just didn't need anything else to upset him even more so than last time (not returning calls and texts very promptly just made him more upset and he tried to guilt trip me about it), so finally at 10 days when he forced my hand by asking when we were going out again and I had to tell him this wasn't working, you'd have thought I'd broken our engagement the night before the wedding, and I finally had to ask him if I should look up the number for the crisis line for him (which finally turned out to be the right thing to say to get him to stop).

So, does "coffee" mean something nowadays that it didn't years ago, did I have really bad luck by just happening to get 2 scary-end guys, were my expectations off about thinking it was fine to get to know somebody pretty well before getting into a relationship with them, or what? Is there a different way to indicate just wanting to get to know somebody incrementally before getting into a relationship?

ElizabethI 6 Feb 18
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Doppio Espresso, ristretto.

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"Coffee" or "lunch" is a pre-date sort of meet, where we decide if we want to get to know each other better. After coffee or lunch a time or two, we can progress on to "dinner." Sex? Don't even ask until we've had a few dates. Sex happens once we decide we want to try "relationship." I don't do random hook-ups. This has nothing to do with morals or custom. I just know my own limits when it comes to emotional investment.

Deb57 Level 8 Apr 12, 2018
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You don't let guys like that down easy. You hit them with a clue-by-four. Hard.

Deb57 Level 8 Apr 12, 2018
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Yikes

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Coffee does indeed mean a chance to meet and know each other. If things work out well and theres chemistry it can lead to more coffee r a meal, or if there is overpowering attraction, to bed as well. Every coffee date is as different as the two people who meet for coffee. Your two friends were not sensitive or intuitive enough to read the signals. It is true that sometimes coffee does mean a hot date but that evolves out of a lot of online exchange of views, emotional feelings, a frank statement of sexual desire. But all that is clearly laid out in the online communication. If there is no reciprocity of these signals online it will not lead to a platonic coffee date.
But you a cup of tea anytime!

lecoq Level 4 Feb 26, 2018
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I've always considered coffee to be a good 'pre' first date and I would consider it a date if it went well. That being said it is a very casual first date even if it did go well and I'd hardly consider myself in a committed relationship after that. If I'd ask to do lunch or a movie sometime and if the person I'm with agreed I'd certainly consider that a date, but I don't think you're in a committed relationship until it's stated. If you have a coffee date and show disinterest after that it's only polite to back off with no hurt feelings.

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Boy, I guess I've been lucky in my dating experiences. But I'm a stickler for communication, so I have to be sure we're on the same page before we meet. Or even if we meet. I like that about meeting someone on line. You can weed out the incompatible ones right off. But coffee in my lingo always means just that. Coffee. In a well lit, well populated and neutral environment so we can eyeball each other. Nothing else.

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I don't think your expectations were off as much as theirs were off. Sadly "coffee" was a que for sex in a video game that most men nowadays have played at one time or another and a lot of guys automatically take it to mean, "take me I'm yours."

That being said, many guys have grown past this but there are quite a few that, sadly, have not. You have my sympathy for the two big kids that you seem to have found.

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Coffee is me having energy to keep up with two toddlers a one year old and a baby after the baby was up all night. So coffee to me means safe kids and a happy time babysitting

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Oh, my gosh! It all makes sense now. It was just a typo. Covfefe was supposed to be coffee and it is apparently creep-speak for sex!

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Coffee to me means I am not going to enjoy myself because coffee shops have nothing to offer me. If someone suggests coffee, I generally suggest something else.

But seriously, coffee, or anything else where I meet someone for the first time is just that--meeting for the first time. I don't expect anything beyond that.

d_day Level 7 Feb 19, 2018
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Coffee is a good way to go. Meet there and go Dutch. No expectations or obligations.

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Coffee is a delicious beverage. No reasonable person would see coffee with someone as anything other than a casual meeting. Dinner means that you are obliged and committed to have sex with them.

Hehe, Just kidding....
That kind of thinking is really pretty silly and obnoxious. I would need a good deal more than an image to actually wish to insert tab A into slot B.

It would be funny if so many men didn't think it was true.

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Oh man I'm sorry you've had to go through that. My dating experiences have been similar lately. What is it with people wanting a commitment on the 2nd date?

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"Coffee" to me just means meeting someone in person in a public place to see if you want to see them again, nothing more than that. I'm sorry you had those experiences, those guys just seemed pretty needy and desperate. In this age of "instant relationships" there seems to be a lot of that. I've had guys professing their love for me just after a few online messages, couldn't understand it. What happened to taking the time to get to know someone? Someone said to me that people like that aren't looking for a partner, they're looking for a parent to make them feel okay.

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Coffee is life .

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Desperate stupid male entitlement applies to any "contact" no matter if it's coffee text phone Facebook Twitter. ....these scum have greater role models: rapist priests pussy grabber TrumpOLINI MONICA PAULA blow me Slick Willie Clinton and BILLARY attacking women instead of divorcing the bastard

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I,m a normal ( ish ) bloke , and to me, inviting a lady to ' coffee' , is just that .,it's an icebreaker to chat , discuss stuff , and maybe find out if there is a mutual attraction . Nothing more .
If there is ..... All the better, if not , its cost a cup of coffee.

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The meaning is still the same. Some people simply insist on reading more into it.

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Another point...continue to meet in public places until you know them better, and Google them. Better safe than sorry, at all times!!,

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Some women I have met online don't like the idea of meeting for coffee. Most seem to think it is ok. My idea is it is a way to spend time with someone in a situation that has no significance of it's own. You get to talk with the person, find out a little more of each other. It may never happen again, or you may have further time together.

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You need to do a stand up comedy routine!! TOO funny the way you write about it. I laugh 'cause been there done that. I had one guy when I checked my messages trashed me as a bitch cause I did not response to his text messages - I had given him my phone number and TOLD him it was a land line, no caller ID, text capablities etc. THAT rapidly ruled out ever doing coffee. I think some guys are just needy and immature.

Possessing your land line phone number, anyone can get your home address and internet profile in less than a minute! Please, everybody, do NOT give out a landline number to someone you do not know! NEVER,

@AnneWimsey It's way worse than that Ms. Wimsey. Privacy is dead.

a simple google search can identify you easily.

I recently read a paper that if you know at least three things about a person you can locate them. Could be first name, or last name, birthday, ssn, place they live, etc.

I am not trying to intimidate you, or scare you, but you shouldn't use your actual name in your profile.

Send me a message if you want more information, or how to do it yourself.

@arnies I just don't give a rats ass if someone wants to waste their time looking for me - I've had nothing but a listed land my whole life. Public records are out there so I take protective measures and don't worry about it. It was a person close to me that commited ID theift not some stranger from the internet. I only recently signed on to facebook so we'll see if there is any fallout from that. One should always stay alert and be aware of one's surroundings when out and about.

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Evidently, "coffee" may be misconstrued as a euphemism for sex these days. I've run into the same thing as far as guys thinking this was the face to face to decide if there was going to be a bit of "slap & tickle" (yes, thats a euphemism). I've started to make it bluntly clear that this is coffee & conversation & not "Lucas cage coffee".

It also clues me in to how much of a geek they are cause if they don't know who Lucas Cage is... ????????????

Lol. Is he related to Nick?

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Sorry, you met 2 creepers in a row, thats got to suck.
To me coffee is just coffee, time to sit-down for a little bullshit time and get to know someone a little. It is usually an early step to people becoming friends nothing more
I am aware enough of people non-verbal communication to recognize the level of interest someone has in me, these guy don't seem to have that talent.

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Coffee is pre-screening to see if you are worth an appointment. Nothing more than that. Until now I had met all women in my life in a dance floor environment. Dancing been my coffee. But I recognize that a lot of good people do not dance... so coffee is not a problem to me.

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