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Conspiracy Theories - Do you believe in any?

I know someone who thinks 9/11 and the moon landing were faked, that Obama was born in Kenya, and that Michelle Obama is really a man.

I'd never met anyone like that. Do you or someone you know believe this stuff? If so, what?

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shockwaverider 8 Feb 22
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I've known some deluded people.

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I can't say I "believe" in these, yet I don't know that I disbelieve either.

"Conspiracy" and "theory" aren't one word. We KNOW, beyond any doubt there have been conspiracies in the past. We KNOW there are unscrupulous people in powerful positions who would not hesitate to deceive, cheat, harm, or kill others to preserve or gain more power.

The question then, is not "why do you believe one?", but why are you certain NONE of these are true?

Example: I'm pretty sure we've been to the moon, yet I can't understand why, since the 911 plane wreck site in PA was cluttered with bodies, papers, luggage, seats, wing parts, engines, the outer layers of the plane, scorched ground, yet there was no trace of ANY of that at the pentagon, not even any trace of the wings hitting the building. ... Go look at the pix.

I'm NOT saying anything about that, but I've never heard a satisfactory explanation either.

I've also never heard a satisfactory explanation.

Late to replying to this comment, but there was indeed wreckage at the site as this photo shows.

@wjwolfe
Whatever is shown now, W, was not in the photos and news videos at the original time. I watched intently.

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I try not to underestimate the stupidity or perfidy of my fellow humans. They often amaze me nevertheless.

I think that most "conspiracy theory" is simply stupid shit that distracts from the real issues. Or is there to discredit some one or something.

Real conspiracy exists, that is no reason to believe some of the nonsense out there.

From wikipedia...

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" was a phrase made popular by Carl Sagan. However, Laplace writes: "The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness."[1] Also, David Hume wrote in 1748: "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence", and "No testimony is sufficient to establish a miracle, unless the testimony be of such a kind, that its falsehood would be more miraculous than the fact which it endeavors to establish."[2] and Marcello Truzzi says: "An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof."[3]

I am a little bit disappointed in those of you that believe this stuff. I really expected a bit more skepticism around here.

@jorj Interesting site with some commentary about 9/11 myths.

[911myths.com]

Would you please specify just what stuff you are "disappointed in?"
I AM sceptical. How does it seem I am not sceptical? -Because I'm not gullible enough to swallow our manipulative governments official version?
Because when someone asked "What's missing in this pic?", I actually looked? (It was any trace of a HUGE plane, btw, a plane which was 2 or 3 stories tall)
I try to follow facts insofar as they are available, yet am reluctant to blindly believe anything but my own senses.
Several facts indicate we, the public, were lied to. For YOU to tell those of us who dare question, causes me to question your validity,
I wonder if you have complacent faith in the our lying corrupt government, or if you are one of these spy/trolls who abound online, spewing out government/ elite/corporate propaganda. Or, perhaps, like some, you are afraid to look at difficult facts?
Me? Who could or would possibly bribe me to question this bs?
Again, Sir, I ask you, don't just poopoo all thoughts of wrongdoing (which, by definition, conspiracy is)
Say why you think a person is wrong.
If you can.

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A chap I used to know was a great believer that the moon landings never happened. He also believed that dinosaurs never existed and that the fossil record had been falsified for reasons he could never explain.

My ex-wife believes that Israel was behind 9/11 and that the Rothschilds control pretty much everything - fairly shocking considering she most certainly isn't an antisemite, but it just goes to show how pervasive some antisemitic myths are.

A colleague, as I've mentioned on this website before, believes Mohammad built the Great Pyramid with help from aliens.

Jnei Level 8 Feb 23, 2018
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I have a neighbor...wow is all I can say about him. heh heh But I do believe JFK was ACCIDENTALLY shot a second, and fatal time, by a secret service agent, from a follow car after the shots of Oswald.

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No to all.

Silly conspiracy theories all.

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All conspiracy theories are the products of troubled, paranoid minds.

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No. None. Utterly crazy ridiculousness.

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No one has proved any to me yet, although I do keep my eye on a few of them. Hey, there might be one or a few, that are true. I don't think many of them are though.

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Them against us for our money but don't give a flying fuck. how do you know your vote is counted? how do you know who owns you? have you really got rights? blah blah blah

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Edward Snowed, the Pentagon Papers, etc... These are provable.

JeffB Level 6 Feb 23, 2018

Provable things do not a conspiracy theory make...

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The government is using chem-trails to kill us. I meet people all the time spreading this nonsense. I do not believe in conspiracy theories. There is too much to enjoy in life. I cannot spend my time being paranoid. Also, the group of super evil best friends known as the illuminati. That one is my favorite.

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My cats are plotting to kill me in my sleep

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Yeah I’m not much like conspiracies

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Here are the stupid conspiracies my mom believes in:
-9/11 was a false flag
-Sandy Hook was a false flag
-The CIA killed JFK
-Chemtrails are real
-The Holocaust was exaggerated
-The Illuminati is real
-Hillary Clinton has ordered the assassinations of dozens of people
-The Moon Landing was hoaxed
-The cure for cancer is being suppressed
-Hitler fled to South America
-The CIA killed Martin Luther King Jr.

There are probably more I'm forgetting.

Curious,
I'm guessing you believe each of these listed is wrong. I honestly, sincerely am asking how you can KNOW each one is false, beyond any doubt?
I doubt most of these, true, but I'd hesitate to call my mother stupid, without more evidence. I like to listen (even to things I am inclined to disbelieve) because I gain knowledge, be it positive or negative.

@njoy_life_2 The reason I am confident in saying that they're wrong is that they are almost entirely based on misunderstandings of science and plagued with logical fallacies. Obviously, I will not make a 100% knowledge claim because that's useless, but I do feel I am justified in thinking they are wrong.

Also, at no point did I call my mother stupid, so please don't put words in my mouth or insinuate that I did. I merely said her conspiracies are stupid.

@wjwolfe
Apologies for that comment W. I spoke too hastily.

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