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In the Bible where Jesus says "He who is without sin the first stone" Two questions come to mind:Why did she cheat and why didn't the man whom she cheated with get punished?

PatrickKerr 6 Feb 7
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Believing in Jesus is like believing in Popeye the Sailor.

Actually he was based on a real person.

@PatrickKerr So is Popeye the Sailor.....my uncle!!!

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Dude, seriously? Perhaps a focus group dedicated to the inexplicable and contradictory Bible is where this discussion belongs.

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That's the way there society worked back then and now. Women in middle eastern countries are treated like shit. They are almost second class citizens. Heck look at our own country back in the 16th centuries and still into the 21st century. They still are not paid the same as men in big businesses. In the military and government offices, it is a different story, but out in the business world, well hmmmf.

Trod Level 5 Sep 9, 2019
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not being religious as in believe every word, no way, but sometimes , most of is is allegory, but got to admit it is true,

actually , if put all together, "JESUS" , these are just things that tell us, if anything that is about feminism and for women to be free and treated equally, so everybody calm down,

i.e. go ahead and do it, and wait for it, cause Karma is a Bitch, just wait for it, anyway, the Bible folks just try to turn his or other whatsoever's , they want Jesus the Healer, make him into sissy boy, for their reasons, but

anybody that is going to say you are an atheist or agnostic, then why are you afraid to read it???

nothing to be afraid of and you can bet I am a Biblical Scholar and also student of all the major religions and

if you are not even going to read them and the wisdom that is given by these ancients from 1000's of years ago, then you live in FEAR! and I do include THE BUDDHA , THE DALAI LAMA,

so really stop using that word spiritual!!!

so, what are you afraid of...

no reason to fear, never but be afraid very afraid, as the religious ones on this site, are nothing BUT FEARFUL

to defeat them, is not to be fearful as are they,

LOOK AT IT, STAND DOWN , AND NO YOUR ARE NOT

WE BETTER, AS IT SEEMS THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED;

SEPARATION OF STATE AND RELIGION!! SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE VERY AFRAID, VERY, IF THIS CONTINUES

FRANKLIN GRAHAM, JOHN HAGEE , AND THE KUSHNERS ARE!!!

also Margaret Atwood has just released her sequel to the Handmaid's Tale, and she wrote that in 80's, and now is the next one, so would suggest might want to read her! she is some kind of sage!!

IMHO

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Why who knows other biblical law a good reason against theocracy

bobwjr Level 10 May 18, 2019
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That portion of the Bible is not found in any other the most historical versions of the Bible. Of course there are no originals of biblical texts. Just the copies of copies of copies of copies.

More importantly, this portion was probably made up by scribes who added it hundreds of years later.

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Because in Christianity, men matter, women are expendable.

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I think that the quote is "he who is without sin cast the first stone ". Like a similar quote "If a man lies with another man he should be stoned" Just a misinterpretation, Good grass in the desert back then.

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The mythical Jesus figure cheated when he, as an immortal god, offered to sacrifice his life for whatever. The basic premise of the religion is a lie.

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Why did she cheat? Do you seriously want us to speculate on something we can't possibly know? There are a million different scenarios that could have been the case if this even really happened. It could have been justified or not but is this even relevant?
Why didn't the man get punished? Maybe he did. The old testament says that both should get killed. But maybe there is also some sexism involved in this scenario, it's not like bible has a shortage of that.

Dietl Level 7 Feb 7, 2019
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I think you may have conflated a few different verses into a single incident. Besides, what does it matter? Religious stuff doesn't have to make sense, right?

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Hi! I believe in the word of God.
The black screen helps you relax when using the computer too much.

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Who cares its only fiction

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The guy seldom gets punished.

Carin Level 8 Aug 12, 2019
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Historically, men have been blameless. Back in those days, women were either the property of their fathers or their husbands. Its funny though, cause it says: "He", when perhaps he was meaning all the out of control sluts.

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Just imagine something like this today.
The members of a jury can only bring in a 'guilty' verdict if they've never broken a law before ! Criminals would have a field day !

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The sermons I heard on this either ignored the inconsistency in the law or pointed to it being a set-up. Most of the sermons went on to hypothesize about what Jesus wrote and suggested he was listing all their sins.
Then the sermon would usually go to how even thinking bad things was the same as doing them and we are all horrible sinners.
Then the altar call.

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Why, then, 'tis none to you, for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. To me it is a prison. Well, then it isn't one to you, since nothing is really good or bad in itself—it's all what a person thinks about it.
No Fear Shakespeare: Hamlet: Act 2 Scene 2 Page 11 - SparkNotes

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That’s a cultural and not a Christianity question. Jesus here is questioning that cultural norm. You’ll probably find that the roots go into security of paternal lineage and social stability.

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how might the answer to those make the point any clearer, do you think?

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Why would you punish the man? Was he in another relationship and cheating as well? Did he know she was in a relationship? Not enough info. I don’t get it.

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighboors Wife"

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That pericope to which you refer is not found in many of the manuscripts and, when it does appears in wildly different places. So there's a lot of textual doubt about it.
Putting that to 1 side, no one knows why she cheated. There is no information provided to tell us, for it's not germane to the author's aim.
The man under Torah would have been punished. He may not have been married. However, this pericope focusses on her so as to make the point that those doing the stoning are hypocrites.

The whole pericope is a moral tale about hypocrisy but it's probably a fictitious tale

I am always amazed at how the God of the universe is so interested in the sex lives of humans.

@Grecio Or what they eat. God, you didn't want your creation eat pigs or cows, why did you create them? Why? Why not ctreating just tofu since it is not a taboo? Or best yet, why didn't you make us get our energy directly from the sun? You know, the only source of energy in our corner of the universe.

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One note on that saying.
That was not in the older versions of the NT, it was added in the first King James Bible.
Actually, so were a lot of other quotes. and stories.

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He was a republican so was the judge

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