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2 Weeks on "Plenty Of Fish"

I decided to give the "Plenty Of Fish" dating site a try. Here's my initial impressions, after about 2 weeks, in case anyone else is thinking of trying it:

First- it seems like Tinder (which I've never been on, only read about) only with fewer nude pics. When I first signed up, I felt like a guy walking into a single's bar for the first time. I had so many notifications of people checking my profile that it was ridiculous. At first, I had set my email to give me notifications from the site, but it's so unselective as to be useless. The site doesn't categorize between emails about messages, emails about other notifications, general site notifications... now I dump everything in my spam folder.

Second- it's a very clumsy site to navigate. It took me days to work out how to set requirements on my profile as to who could email me at all. Now at least I'm not getting messages from across the country.

Third- it's not at all selective as to who it presents as matches, although it claims to be. At least 75 percent of the women it's tried to match me with are shown as Christian in one way or another (it shows denominations, which is a nice touch, I suppose, IF you're an Xian and worry about that sort of thing). I can't find any sort of filter that says "I'm looking for non-religious matches". "Atheist" and "Agnostic" aren't even categories.
There's also an optional personality test through which one can tell others that religion either is or is not important to you. I've seen many "non-religious" people who also rate religion as important... someone's confused. Unless they're trying to say, it's important to be an atheist, and that's as close as the site lets them get to expressing that?

Fourth- SO MANY FAKE PROFILES that it's ridiculous. I gave up trying to report them after the third day. I can only guess that it's in the hundreds by now, that I've personally been messaged by. All the profiles nearly identical, all claiming to be near my age, with pictures of women in their 20s or 30s, some of which are just lingerie shots and in one case a topless pic (not that I have a problem with that); one of three or four identical "about me" paragraphs (and they aren't the ones supplied by the site, especially not the one that goes, "when I'm not at work I'm at home m@sturb@ting" ); hair color description that doesn't come close to the picture; and high school education, with a career like "engineer", "pilot", or "surgeon". πŸ˜€ I've decided that leaving them alone is contributing to natural selection; any man stupid enough to reply to them beyond a facetious response (which I sometimes give the best ones) deserves to learn a lesson.

Slightly more subtle was the woman who seemed to be genuine, but who evaded my question about how long she had lived in her town quite near me and instead changed the subject to setting up a video chat through POF; for which she needed my email address to send the site admin. Friends and neighbors, there is no video chat service on POF. A quick search confirmed this is a known scam, with a fake service that uses POF's logos but is a completely different company. I reported her. Sad to say, it looks like they took her profile down, but she came back with the same name and no picture yet. Obviously the admins are either swamped with fraudulent users, or they just don't care enough to watch for the fakes who come back again and again.
It bears repeating here: NEVER give personal identifying information like your email to someone on a dating site, and especially don't give financial information.

Fifth- there are some nice and genuine people on there, who can hold a very good conversation. I had an extremely good one my first week, almost agreed to meet for coffee, when it turned out she hadn't realized that "non-religious" on my profile didn't just mean "doesn't go to church", but meant "atheist". She said it was a deal breaker and meant it; our first phone conversation turned out to be our last, about 65 seconds later. But I'm currently having another very nice conversation with someone that may or may not go anyplace.

So, it's a very mixed bag. You will get a ton of messages, but have to sift through a lot of gravel to find the tiny gleam of gold. And that gold will often as not turn out to be pyrite. But just like any dating site, you're playing the odds. I'm going to keep playing until my subscription runs out, and then I'll either have met someone through it, or I'll give up on it. Either way I'll have seen a lot of interesting lingerie pics. πŸ˜‰

Paul4747 8 Apr 28
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I've been on POOF for a few months now. I was on Metch before that, for 2 years, and earlier about 2008-10, too. Yes, POOF is harder to use than Metch, and has more junk profiles, and is clunkier to use, but my experience has not been nearly as bad as yours. Even though POOF says that most women read your profile before writing, I haven't found that to be true. I get dozens of clicks on my photo alone, from people with no compatibility activity- or philosophy-wise. But the price is better than Metch, and anyway, after two years there, I felt I was only seeing re-runs on Metch. But Metch's key-word-search function is great. You can even search for their categories Agnostic or Atheist, much more specific that POOF's "non-religious".

And living in west lower Michigan, neiher POOF nor Metch recognizes Lake Michigan, so they both send me matches from Wisconsin, as if it was really 100 miles away. (To be thorough, Agnostic.com does this too.) One of the greatest advantages of Metch over POOF is that on Metch, if I click "Remove" on a profile, I never see it again. Whereas POOF will send me interesting profiles that have (unbeknownst to me) blocked me or otherwise prevented me from contacting them (too far, six month out of their age-limits, whatever) and then, after I have wasted time reading and writing, it tells me I cannot contact them. They should not offer me profiles if I cannot contact them. I complained to POOF about this and their reply made no sense, as if they hadn't understood my complaint. Despite all that, POOF is cheaper, indicating that we get what we pay for.

In general, Paul hit it well: You have to do a lot of sifting on interweb dating sites. And never give personal info, last name, phone number, real e-address, until you are confident in the person.

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You are such an interesting and charming guy...I hope you find a person who appreciates that...at least you are willing to put yourself out there and into this maze...enjoy the lingerie pics at least...ha ha ha Good luck, Paul!

Thank you... I'm still having a great conversation with someone, we're at the "acquaintance becoming friends" stage in her words, which is a great place to be. You know I'm a natural optimist anyway.

Maybe I should post some underwear pictures of my own, it might increase my chances?

@Paul4747 I think posting a picture of you reading a book would attract a higher quality person πŸ˜‰

@thinktwice I frequently read in bed, so that's the double threat πŸ˜‰

@Paul4747 Hopefully, not a "how to" manual...ha ha ha

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My experiences with POF is that the site gives up on me, thinks I have a fake profile or agenda, and they boot me out. This has happened twice as I go back to find I have no profile and cannot log in. My reaction is to say "Chuck You, Farley." I don't see how they have any fish?

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Hi,

Absolutely agree with all you have said, I find it very frustrating and as soon as you log on the fake messages start. To be honest I won't be using it much anymore and I didn't know that Match.Com owns everything! There is no surprise there though as only a few major cooperates own everything.

Tinder not so bad but I never get the nude pics 😟 lol have chatted to a few and been ok although not gone too far as I am not looking for anything serious yet. So I took the plunge and joined Fabswingers as I am open sexually and it has been pretty good, I have even organised local socials.

Kind of works too, I get singles turn up and couples, just a big laugh a few drinks with like minded people bloody great atmosphere.

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Have tried PO and other dating sites. Most all have the same issues with scammers.
The bieeger problem for me though is the unnaturalness of trying to find a date online and the silly way the sites are structure with all those useless notifications. Wow, you have three likes and four people liked your pic and six people made you a fav. Those "winks" are about the dumbest thing. I can't stand the dumbness of it all.

BTW, Match.com owns almost all the dating sites, including POF. corporation[entrepreneur.com]

I kind of thought so, once I saw the cross-advertising links. Companies don't advertise for their competition.

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It seems all the popular sites are a mixed bag. But it is possible to meet someone. You just need abundant patience, a ready sense of humor, enough common sense to avoid the crazies and the scammers, and be open to the possibilities !

I still laugh when I think that one of my best finds, that ended up being a 4yr relationship - was with someone I met in that wierd , racy, nutsy world of the old Craigslist single's ads. Ha.

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POF has the most fake and scammer profiles I have ever seen anywhere. Please stay away.

And at the same time, I'm having a long and complex intellectual discussion with someone right now, who is actually cautioning me that she hasn't had luck with romantic relationships and wants to keep things low-key. Not a scammer behavior, they will want to go fast and get your information ASAP.

It's a very mixed bag.

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On the various dating sites I've experienced over the years, I've seen the occasional faked profile but have never had someone try to scam me. Guess I am an outlier.

I also had a stalker that I met on OKC if I remember right. You had good luck.

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I have been on & off POF for almost 10 years, have had some fun meets, some very weird meets, and one long-term (almost 3 years) Penpal out of it. I have also been on other sites, a few paid. I find POF incredibly easy to use, the filters work well...distance, age especally so. I decline all offers to pay for "more service". It seems, just like on this site, that the number of scammers is way up, sadly. Insisting on direct answers to direct questions is the best method to weed them out...for example, "did you have a favorite pet as a child?"...what real person wouldn't love to babble away about their gerbil, dog, fish? But a scammer will reply, "oh my dear I am so thrilled we have similar experiences"

Yep. Last night I asked a "business owner" what kind of business she ran, and she thanked me for my response and wanted my email so she could send me some pictures. I thanked her for her non-answer. πŸ˜€

@Paul4747 Perfect example!

@AnneWimsey Normally I wouldn't have bothered, because I couldn't picture a 49-year-old "business owner" putting up the photo she did... but she did look close to the right age, and at least her hair color was right, so...? I considered it an empirical test.

I went on a few dates via POF and OKCupid. Like everything else, it's a mix - some nice women, some crazy/nasty ones. My only suggestion is to start slow via email and phone chat and get to know someone a bit before meeting in person. Oh and if someone with photos as an attractive young person finds you irresistible, it's probably a scam.

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My friend and her husband have been married for 7 years now and met on the site.

I'm glad for you. And it gives me basis for my optimism and persistence to keep sifting through for someone worthwhile.

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You are correct on many points. It's the antithesis of being user friendly. It's overrun by fake accounts seeking money. Having said all that, I actually did meet my wife of for years next month, on that site... no joke.

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POF is terrible.
The β€œchemistry test” is part of the paid service.
When I used it, it did have non-religious or some such thing BUT KEPT TURNING THAT FILTER OFF.
I was β€œmatched” almost exclusively with guys with a high-school diploma who smoked - both dealbreakers for me.

Odds are most of them were fake profiles anyway. Did they have jobs like "dentist", "economist" and "professor"?

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whatever happened to just walking into a bar & meeting someone? i guess when i was between marriages it was a simpler time. almost like "Cheers" i suppose. but don't ppl still have their favorite watering holes?

I tell ya, Dubious, places are so loud these days, full of big-screen TVs... and people travel in packs. It's frankly intimidating unless you're already going there to meet someone specific.

An unpleasant drain of time and money, nope!

Generally too noisy for convo. Besides all you can find in a bar are people who like to hang in bars.

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"Plenty of Flakes" is what I call POF.

Thank you, I take pride in my flakiness πŸ˜€

@Paul4747
Yes but are you tender too?

LoL

If by flake you mean thoughtful caring nerdy tender person then yes πŸ‘

@bobwjr Gee, Bob, if you're talking about me, then I'm oddly touched that you noticed. Thanks.

Bahahha...I call it Plenty of Freaks

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I tried P.O.F. for over 2 years and found it was more like Plenty of Fishcrap.

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This site is by no means immune to scams. Most, but not all get pulled down fairly quickly.

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That's why I've pretty much all but given up on looking for dates and casual dating. Too many fake people out there, variables, and what not which makes it complicated.

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Pof has definitely gone downhill hard.. when i was on it my first go around , it was pretty good.. now the scammers have taken it over so much its pretty useless.

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Abandon all hope

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After my divorce, about 9 and a half years ago, I tried both POF and Match. All told I think I had 3 dates, none of which was a second date. Women I was interested in online were generally not interested in me, pretty much like in real life. So I stopped. I did get a date recently on Tinder. Sweet woman, very cute and intelligent, but way too young for me and we both knew it. I've had much better results the old fashioned way. I'm not breaking any records, but it passes the time every so often. It's a crap shoot no matter how you do it.

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It was to problematic for me to sort out the chaff. And, the fact that I was stalked twice from men on there while they did nothing to help me didn't help. The only thing they would do is refund my money and allow me to leave. This was after I blocked one over ten times and he would just create a new profile to find me and taunt me again. Thankfully, I am intelligent enough to never allow anyone to know my address unless I am very comfortable with them or he'd be at my door. It's different experiences between men and women for certain.

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I met a lot of women using POF and four long term relationships. It's not a great site and it has a lot of problems but so does every site that's out there. You won't find anything different on sites that you pay subscription fees for honestly.
You just need to be smart and patient enough to separate wheat from chaff.

Good for you, and I'll settle for just one. I agree, it's a process, and I'm not impatient. Just thought I could be informative and amusing with this account of my brief experience.

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P. S. If the religion thing is something that your keying on you might try OkCupid which delves into many questions and details more than most sites do.

lerlo Level 8 Apr 28, 2019
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Did you say subscription? It's a free site. No different than any other dating site but they get hacked a lot so you get a lot of spam from supposedly gorgeous 20 year olds. You'll learn that anything with a number at the end of it isn't a legitimate profile. You can set your preferences as to what you're looking for and the distance from your location.

lerlo Level 8 Apr 28, 2019

Yes, subscription. It's intentionally unclear during the signup process, so it pushes people into thinking you have to pay to join up. Capitalism, it's a wonderful thing.

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Its clumsy for sure and daunting at times and sometimes just plain sucks, but I met my husband on there. We’ve been married for 5 years in October and together for 7 now so don’t disregard it. We did have to fish through the masses though to finally find each other. Nice thing though is it was easier to find the assholes before I ever accepted a date with anyone.

Congratulations to you both!
I'm not saying by any means that the site's without value, and I'm an optimist by nature. I made a real connection with someone my first week (until the atheist thing came up). I just have to learn more about it and meanwhile, I'm getting some good laughs.

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