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2 Weeks on "Plenty Of Fish"

I decided to give the "Plenty Of Fish" dating site a try. Here's my initial impressions, after about 2 weeks, in case anyone else is thinking of trying it:

First- it seems like Tinder (which I've never been on, only read about) only with fewer nude pics. When I first signed up, I felt like a guy walking into a single's bar for the first time. I had so many notifications of people checking my profile that it was ridiculous. At first, I had set my email to give me notifications from the site, but it's so unselective as to be useless. The site doesn't categorize between emails about messages, emails about other notifications, general site notifications... now I dump everything in my spam folder.

Second- it's a very clumsy site to navigate. It took me days to work out how to set requirements on my profile as to who could email me at all. Now at least I'm not getting messages from across the country.

Third- it's not at all selective as to who it presents as matches, although it claims to be. At least 75 percent of the women it's tried to match me with are shown as Christian in one way or another (it shows denominations, which is a nice touch, I suppose, IF you're an Xian and worry about that sort of thing). I can't find any sort of filter that says "I'm looking for non-religious matches". "Atheist" and "Agnostic" aren't even categories.
There's also an optional personality test through which one can tell others that religion either is or is not important to you. I've seen many "non-religious" people who also rate religion as important... someone's confused. Unless they're trying to say, it's important to be an atheist, and that's as close as the site lets them get to expressing that?

Fourth- SO MANY FAKE PROFILES that it's ridiculous. I gave up trying to report them after the third day. I can only guess that it's in the hundreds by now, that I've personally been messaged by. All the profiles nearly identical, all claiming to be near my age, with pictures of women in their 20s or 30s, some of which are just lingerie shots and in one case a topless pic (not that I have a problem with that); one of three or four identical "about me" paragraphs (and they aren't the ones supplied by the site, especially not the one that goes, "when I'm not at work I'm at home m@sturb@ting" ); hair color description that doesn't come close to the picture; and high school education, with a career like "engineer", "pilot", or "surgeon". 😀 I've decided that leaving them alone is contributing to natural selection; any man stupid enough to reply to them beyond a facetious response (which I sometimes give the best ones) deserves to learn a lesson.

Slightly more subtle was the woman who seemed to be genuine, but who evaded my question about how long she had lived in her town quite near me and instead changed the subject to setting up a video chat through POF; for which she needed my email address to send the site admin. Friends and neighbors, there is no video chat service on POF. A quick search confirmed this is a known scam, with a fake service that uses POF's logos but is a completely different company. I reported her. Sad to say, it looks like they took her profile down, but she came back with the same name and no picture yet. Obviously the admins are either swamped with fraudulent users, or they just don't care enough to watch for the fakes who come back again and again.
It bears repeating here: NEVER give personal identifying information like your email to someone on a dating site, and especially don't give financial information.

Fifth- there are some nice and genuine people on there, who can hold a very good conversation. I had an extremely good one my first week, almost agreed to meet for coffee, when it turned out she hadn't realized that "non-religious" on my profile didn't just mean "doesn't go to church", but meant "atheist". She said it was a deal breaker and meant it; our first phone conversation turned out to be our last, about 65 seconds later. But I'm currently having another very nice conversation with someone that may or may not go anyplace.

So, it's a very mixed bag. You will get a ton of messages, but have to sift through a lot of gravel to find the tiny gleam of gold. And that gold will often as not turn out to be pyrite. But just like any dating site, you're playing the odds. I'm going to keep playing until my subscription runs out, and then I'll either have met someone through it, or I'll give up on it. Either way I'll have seen a lot of interesting lingerie pics. 😉

Paul4747 8 Apr 28
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Free dating sites are usually useless.

Yes!
Beyond any redeemable value!

@of-the-mountain yet, here we are

@MarkiusMahamius Not everyone on this site is here for dating. Some of us only came here for community.

@KKGator
Yes! Too much distance between members!

@of-the-mountain That's not my reason, but everyone has their own.

@KKGator
Yes!
That is the point we can still pick and choose what we still want and will tolerate!

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I've run across those fake profiles on POF. Most are really obvious, as you mentioned. I get very few messages but when I do, it's the fake "hey there 🙂". That gets my immediate deletion. Can't imagine everybody using the same phrase "hey there 🙂". Figure it's probably one organization preying on people looking to connect with a member of the opposite sex. Must be scam-money to be made. Not from me if I can help it. Usually buxom young lasses just dying to connect with an old guy such as myself. "Her" profile shows a 20-something, "her" stated age is 60-something.

My favorite was the one who gave "her" profession as "cosmonaut". 😀 Zero possibility that there was a Russian bot programmer involved.

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Sounds tedious.

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Very complete report...thank you for taking your time to share with us.

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POF is nothing but a way too put your money in their pocket!

Tinder is another complete joke!

Zoosk, Match, Our time, and do not forget E harmony all offering a fancy way to meet the one you are longing for by duping you into paying for trolls, frauds, fakes, and scammers to fleece you from the site you pay to belong too!

All these dating sites are good for us, by taking your money and wasting your time on what was never there in the first place!

I have met three girls on two different sites over three year period!

I would not call them ladies or women!

All of them have what most would consider manic depressive, bipolar, sociopath, and possibly psychotic tendencies or a combination of all the above!

There is no way of knowing who is real, if there photographs are really them or if they were even taken in the last year!

Huge amount of Prince Charming/ White Knight Hunters!

All most all are overtly needed, want 60 year old who has the body and stamina of 25 year old and the wealth of hedge fund manager!

It is a numbers game!

Only one problem the numbers are not increasing!

At our age were do you meet anyone sane that does not go to church, to a bar, or a twelve step program member?

obviously you do not use POF!
To play as man it costs!

Yes! Selective is the word!

They are less and less of us out there as we age!

So you settle if that is your forte, unlike you the vast majority of us, we do not live near massive amounts of age appropriate individuals which are possibly compatible with one another!

@SeaGreenEyez It may possibly have free features, but they're very well hidden and it's not made at all clear what features you could access for free during the sign-up process. I hesitated for over a year before trying this experiment. I doubt I'll renew. Like OK Cupid, which doesn't even show you the people who've "liked" you unless you're a paid member, I wonder what features you can actually get for free.
It might also be the case, as implied above, that the site discriminates against men somehow.

@SeaGreenEyez I believe you, but the site deliberately obfuscates what features it has for free, in advance of deciding whether or not to join as a paid member. Maybe it wasn't that way to begin with, but that's the business model now.

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It is a waste of time . . . . the time you put in to it could be used for many, much more productive things.
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That is my take on the site in a nutshell.

THHA Level 7 Apr 28, 2019
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@Paul4747;

I don't think you've discovered the "advanced search" (for POF).

You can specify -
-non-religious or "other" or "new-age"
-height
-distance
and many other choices.

This way you can avoid the absentees...or the non-responders ("on line now" are listed first).

But remember there's a very competitive, if not better "free" dating site.. right here.

Agnostic.com has many options - if you're "ready to be out there".

The problem with A.com is its newness - and thus it's low membership, and wide dispersal of members.

...but A.com is growing....

As I said, it's a very clumsy site to navigate. Thank you.

I joined this site intending to use it as a dating resource, but it's become a social thing instead. I don't think most of the members here are here to date, and those that are, I've found... don't want to date me. But that's true of the world at large, why should this site be any different?

@Paul4747 Exactly.

Get "dating" out of your goal/mind.

Just relate your life. Interact as much as possible.

We all have "followers" and "favorites"....some folks (including me) have been burned and are very hesitant to start over...so develop more "self-love" get used to "being alone" and just interact....there's possibly some potential "mates" out there keeping a tab/eye on you...but if not...let it be.

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There is a search feature where you can choose religion categories if you go to advanced search. That's for searching profiles rather than searching through your messages. Messaging others makes it more likely that you will be communicating with a genuine person. You can also see when the person was last online. It's a waste of time to message people who aren't there anymore. I think they like the scammers because they make the site look more popular.

Looks like someone below was commenting the same thing at the same time.

As far as it being a waste of time: Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I want the filter to work without my having to search profiles. Too much to ask, I suppose. It strikes me that, on the scale of low-rent to high-end sites, this is definitely the low end of the scale.

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More like Plenty of Ho's.

Where do I find this "plenty of ho's" I wanna join in on the fun...lol \s

None of them were "into you?"

Only if you purchased an ID from a website so they felt "safe" > Obvious scam.

@MarkiusMahamius @KeithJones only if I was willing to shell out my cc

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Yes POF is a pain.

I'm surprised they are not doing more to combat the fake profiles, it just hurts them.

I have mixed feelings on greetings, I don't mind simple hellos or hey there. Longer is nicer but how much effort do you expect me to put in if there is an unknown effort coming back.

I wonder if there is a way to make a dating site that would encourage replies and conversation, something like if you want only longer chats you have to respond back. I dunno

In some ways, this website is kind of like what you describe, but it is small and not so big to attract spammers yet.

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I don't think it has always been like this, I've had a profile on their site for quite some time, but i recently just started contacting some people, and had the same experience you had. I noticed that the fake and alternate website advertising profiles seem to generate responses back after you email them, which is unfortunate.

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They've probably changed a bit since I was on. I got tired of getting alerts from women in my age group who needed a "God fearing man." Replying and stating that I was an atheist was a great way to weed out future conflict. I deleted my profile 7 yrs ago and haven't looked back.

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Sounds like a fishing expedition (sorry, i couldn't resist!). I hit the jackpot with my first contact on another dating app. I have 2 suggestions. The first suggestion is from my personal experience. Seek out answers to specific questions on your initial messages. Like, would you date an atheist? I received a message from a turned-out-to-be scammer here on agnositc that was very general. I read his profile and asked him a direct question about his career field. He wouldn't/couldn't answer it. He tried again a couple of weeks later stating he was busy working. I restated the question. End of conversation. I think the scammers are trying to get you talk about yourself and forget that you are not getting any insight about them. Sometimes i think its a way for them to perfect their coversational english algorithm. The second suggestion is from a comment I read here on agnostic. Be one of the first persons to initiate contact. And make your message informed and specific. Like, I too like [concerts, camping, scubadiving], when was the last time you did it? My last time was [the best, worst] and I want to do it again.

JGal Level 7 Apr 28, 2019
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I think your whole message can get compressed to just one word.... scam (Not you but POF service, seems like it's notthing but a scam)

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Thanks for sharing. I am looking to get back into the dating arena after taking some time away, and it can be intimidating trying to figure out where to start.

If I might advise... don't start with POF. If I hadn't had 18 month's experience of other sites, this one would have thrown me for a real loop instead of giving me a good laugh.

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It’s a scam. Didn’t find even one fish or even a mermaid on the site

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I gave it up several months ago. I'm looking for love, not a hookup

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I received a message from a guy yesterday.... in response to him hearing about my recently broken heart...That I should..."Cut bait and Keep fishing".... I think the best advise I have ever received.

Good luck.

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I have been very clear on my profile that I am an athiest, a socialist and an environmental activist. I get very few hits, and when I do, it is clear they didn't read my profile. I am also a fitness enthusiast a la Jack LaLanne and most of the hits don't have a pulse. In spite of this, I always thank the person for their interest. When I contact someone, I virtually never get a thank you. The general rudeness of the women is striking. I see the fake profiles;usually say 65 years old, but the pictures are unmistakably of a 30 year old.

I thank those people who send a genuine message, at least the genuine people. One of the benefits of paid membership (the few benefits, apparently) is that you can see if your messages have been read and see who looks at your profile.
It's really irritating to see a message deleted without even being read and without your profile being looked at. I put effort into writing, and it seems a shame that people judge by my face that I'm not worth hearing from.

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Its clumsy for sure and daunting at times and sometimes just plain sucks, but I met my husband on there. We’ve been married for 5 years in October and together for 7 now so don’t disregard it. We did have to fish through the masses though to finally find each other. Nice thing though is it was easier to find the assholes before I ever accepted a date with anyone.

Congratulations to you both!
I'm not saying by any means that the site's without value, and I'm an optimist by nature. I made a real connection with someone my first week (until the atheist thing came up). I just have to learn more about it and meanwhile, I'm getting some good laughs.

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Did you say subscription? It's a free site. No different than any other dating site but they get hacked a lot so you get a lot of spam from supposedly gorgeous 20 year olds. You'll learn that anything with a number at the end of it isn't a legitimate profile. You can set your preferences as to what you're looking for and the distance from your location.

lerlo Level 8 Apr 28, 2019

Yes, subscription. It's intentionally unclear during the signup process, so it pushes people into thinking you have to pay to join up. Capitalism, it's a wonderful thing.

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P. S. If the religion thing is something that your keying on you might try OkCupid which delves into many questions and details more than most sites do.

lerlo Level 8 Apr 28, 2019
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I met a lot of women using POF and four long term relationships. It's not a great site and it has a lot of problems but so does every site that's out there. You won't find anything different on sites that you pay subscription fees for honestly.
You just need to be smart and patient enough to separate wheat from chaff.

Good for you, and I'll settle for just one. I agree, it's a process, and I'm not impatient. Just thought I could be informative and amusing with this account of my brief experience.

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It was to problematic for me to sort out the chaff. And, the fact that I was stalked twice from men on there while they did nothing to help me didn't help. The only thing they would do is refund my money and allow me to leave. This was after I blocked one over ten times and he would just create a new profile to find me and taunt me again. Thankfully, I am intelligent enough to never allow anyone to know my address unless I am very comfortable with them or he'd be at my door. It's different experiences between men and women for certain.

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After my divorce, about 9 and a half years ago, I tried both POF and Match. All told I think I had 3 dates, none of which was a second date. Women I was interested in online were generally not interested in me, pretty much like in real life. So I stopped. I did get a date recently on Tinder. Sweet woman, very cute and intelligent, but way too young for me and we both knew it. I've had much better results the old fashioned way. I'm not breaking any records, but it passes the time every so often. It's a crap shoot no matter how you do it.

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