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If you had to kill your own meat would you?

I am curious how many people would be vegan or vegetarian, if they had to slaughter their own meat, or watch it be killed? I know it doesn’t bother everyone. I have family that hunts, skins, and cleans their kill. I also do not preach to those who choose to eat meat. It’s your life, live it how you want. I do think many people choose to ignore the actual process of meat getting to the store, all cleaned up and packaged neatly. I also wonder for those who hunt yet claim to love animals, how does that go hand in hand? I’m not judging, I really am curious. Aberham Twerski said this regarding love: “‘Young man. Why are you eating that fish?’ The young mans says, ‘Because I love fish.’ He says, ‘Oh. You love the fish. That’s why you took it out of the water and killed it and boiled it.’ He says, ‘Don’t tell me you love the fish. You love yourself, and because the fish tastes good to you; therefore, you took it out of the water and killed it and boiled it.’

BohoHeathen 8 Sep 10
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Yes. That said not as often, as it is very messy.

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I have. We raised chickens. I have fished.

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Yes

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Society in the UK dosen't hunt often. We but from supermarkets or butchers. We are a mostly urban society and many have forgot where meat comes from. In education small children appear reviled at the idea their chicken nuggets came from a bird, burgers from a cow, bacon from a pig and so on. Many seem to think that pork sausages are made in a factory from stuff, not thinking that it was once a living animal or two.
Then milk, or cow juice as I often wind kids up with. Squeeze an orange, what do you get? Orange juice, squeeze a cow - cow juice.
All complex life kills and consumes to live. Humans are a hunter species.

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I could if I had to. I could never raise an animal for food, but I could kill wild game again if I had to. I watch some shows about Alaskans who choose to live the wilderness lifestyle and one of the guys explained something in a way I had never considered. There are hardly any wild animals who die of old age. Some die because they're prey, some die from disease, some die from starvation, some die from fire, some die from flooding, etc., but I would guess that very few die from being old. Having to intentionally kill an animal would definitely bother me.

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I'd kill a bologna in a second.

How could you!! 😉

@BeeHappy drown it in mustard.

@hankster lol, that's one way. Or burn it at the stake... oh, I mean pan.

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I live on 12 acres beside a river for a reason. I don't hunt, but I shoot targets. But if I had to, my freezer would be filled with Deer, bear, turkey and whatever else might be good. I catch fish fresh so I wouldn't freeze them.

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I used to hunt elk and deer every year, their natural predators are pretty much gone. I love animals, but they have to be culled.

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I used to hunt elk and deer every year, their natural predators are pretty much gone. I love animals, but they have to be culled.

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How many of you can say that you don't eat a hamburger, or have bacon or sausage with breakfast

@BohoHeathen never even eggs?

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I have hunted and fished. I made a point of eating or trying to eat whatever animal or fish I took. First, I was not really good at either, so no creatures went extinct while I was hunting/gathering. Second, cleaning the catch was not fun, but fortunately I never killed a large animal like a dear or bear. Third, I could never be a farmer and raise animals to be slaughtered, but then I could never be a boxer or a surgeon either. Cutting live flesh is not something I would do willingly. Fourth, my rationalizing for eating meat is that putting that meat on the table is employment and income for thousands of people. Farm kids are lovingly raising animals for slaughter because it is the life they were brought up in. And millions of animals would never be born at all if it wasn’t for the food industry.
I realize the corporate farming and slaughtering is not pleasant, I have been inside chicken processing plants. But then vegetable farming on the corporate scale often mistreats humans in the process of growing those vegetables. But there would be no other way to feed our exploding population with mom and pop farms. They are a luxury few can afford, and I want to grow my own vegetables about as much as I want to hunt my own meat! 😊

I loved growing vegetables. But it was a very very small garden. 🙂

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Yes I would, and I have no problem with eating road kill..yes I can dress a kill (skin & gut)..I also have no problem with fishing..or trapping (rabbit, squirrels)..I would do whatever needed to stay alive..obviously I'm an omnivore..hunting for food and loving an animal(s) are separate needs..one is survival the other companionship..I wouldn't kill to consume endangered species..

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I was involved in the annual slaughter of pigs. I have now learned enough of nutriotion that I do not have to slaughter pigs anymore, or goats, cows and sheep and chickens. So no,Iwould not.

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Did this, when I first left the army hunted food until I got back to work, my family ate wild game and thrived

bobwjr Level 10 Sep 10, 2019
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I would only do it if I needed food. Not for sport

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Probably not...
A stray chicken found me and I actually feel guilty if I eat chicken now... lol

@BohoHeathen it's TRUE. Lol

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I practice field to table regularly. I accept the moral obligations that come with it and I do NOT shirk from those obligations. That means I take only sure shots that are quick and lethal. Then that means I go as absolutely far as I can to use every bit of the animal that I can and what I cannot make use of goes back to the forest where it belongs. I even save the marginally edible scrap to make dog treats, much to my dog's everloving joy.

Also, I recently switched to using all non-toxic lead free ammunition. I have read hundreds of peer reviewed scientific papers on the subject and the evidence is clear that residual lead in the gutpile is a source of lead poisoning in raptors, particularly eagles.

And this is directly attributable to being a committed Rooseveltian conservationist that agrees with the North American Wildlife Conservation Model.

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Just look at as you are giving the animal mercy from beeing killed in some other horrific manner.

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i don't want to be around if that is what it comes to. i cannot imagine the chaos. i try to accommodate my kids evolving views and food choices. i figure they are educating themselves on the ecology and idealistic, why crush it with mandatory hamburger. i do this while lying to myself that i could do it if i had to all the while knowing the involuntary gagging at slaughter training would be to the point of certain failure if not hemorrhage. i believe i could help with the clean and dress, but the kill? that i would have wished i was taught as a boy by my dad. if i had to figure it out now? would be tough. i am eating less meat because of my kids choices. but sometimes i eat the steak right in front of them.

@LetzGetReal nah. i was more in the mindset that the food supply was somehow interrupted and we all had to fend for ourselves. noble? more like chickenshit. i don't have an arsenal. would make it tough for me to one bag meat from under the couch, two... holy shit can you imagine the chaos? and me without an arsenal? and worse... meat?!

that is what i meant.

kidding aside, i am listening to my children and in the process of accomodation am making better choices. reading labels. healthier choices? they'll publish what i've been eating that has been killing me two years from now even if i change it anyway, so i am going to enjoy something in life. one of my choices may be to hunt. not sure. i like meat a lot. my kids are pretty damn persuasive. the argument the kid is using is all encompassing from treatment to climate to health... if it comes down to bambi or tofu? i might learn to set a snare. i now know a bean patty recipe. doesn't taste a damn thing like meat, but its got protein in it, and its reasonably burger shaped. not sure which causes more human gas - red meat or beans, but we're experimenting.

i have never engaged a person that undertook a hunger strike. i imagine starving to death sucks.

my view of nature allows me to eat meat. truthfully, the canines in my mouth are really all about i need. i also don't think my eating less or none is a drop in the bucket. i doubt my local butcher notes it. well other than they probably mine the data off of my credit card, but he's not cutting less meat.

@LetzGetReal thanks. that is much nicer than confusing, negative, wordy, self rightous windbag. and none inferred. why did you mean offense? 🙂

they're good kids. proud of them. it is what i am thinking. that is what i am going for anyway. might have to work on the filter a little, but steaming toward crotchety old man anyway. might as well get in the practice.

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I have, and will do again, hunted. Every thing from Duck, Pheasant, to Deer. And I also fish, and have Crabbed.
Back in the day I was a Chef at a few different places over the years. So I've learned every thing from hunting to serving dinner.
It's a bit unrealistic to say that every one should kill, and carve an animal to food, even though it would be a good idea. yet It is also unrealistic to say that humans should never kill another animal as well. To be honest I see both sides, mostly because I am also a huge animal lover.
Meh I'm probably talking in circles here. But I can say one thing, Humans as we are at this point of evolution are Omnivores. we can try to deny that fact, but we just can't get the nutrition we need with out proteins, and other than animals, proteins are hard to come by.
JMHO.

@LetzGetReal I have to agree. And it is more than inconclusive due to many giving data on both sides of the fence that are fairly biased. I could be wrong, but I happen to lean on the side of that humans can't get the nutrients from only plants.

@LetzGetReal, @BohoHeathen I kind of get where you are going with that. but think about this. The needs of Deer, cows, ducks, etc, is vastly different than the needs of humans. Imagine, if you will, trying to live on eating grass your whole life. I really doubt that any human could, yet many other mammals do just that.

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Grew up hunting and fishing on a farm. Taught to butcher cows, chickens, and deer from a young age. Chose being a vegan for health, environmental concerns and the way that farms currently raise animals with no dignity and much cruelty. When we raised animals on our farm they had good lives up until the end... Probably wouldn't eat meat today even if corporate farms raised animals humanely.

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If born 200 years ago, I would be moving through the digestive system of wolves.

Very sad thought

As a person who needs glasses I would definitely be somebody's meal.

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Can't and won't. I know people who do but not me.

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People who eat animal cadaver are are rarely hunters, farmers, butchers, meat packers, fish gutters, shrimpers, inspectors or truck drivers taking terrified sentient animals to their deaths. My earliest memories hunting and fishing with my father includes watching the light of life go out in the eyes of dying rabbits, pheasants and quail I ran to capture their gunshot bodies bleeding in my hands where hunting dogs did not see to retrieve. That same year xmas of 1956, "Santa" gave my brother and I matching cowboy boots and cap guns looking like Colt 45 six shot revolvers but the trigger and hammer spun taped gunpowder to explode inch after inch when "shot"....the sound was exciting and I wondered how Santa got down our 6 inch chimney....none the less I refused to eat fried chicken legs, ground up cow meat called pigham "burgers" preferring hot dogs and baloney I had no clue where that food CAME FROM....SLICING a giant Turkey out of the oven, I wondered where the feathers went.... "Were some inside my pillow ?" I have been paid to perform all 8 jobs on my lines 2&3 above.....if all carnivore people were required to buy a hunting/fishing license and work those 8 jobs one day per year TO BUY THEIR "food" ....the wasteful food industry would have fewer customers and wildlife habitats would be restored and expanded closer to Native America of 1492

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