It start off like this, you see. 13.8 billion years is actually the same as seven days. When Adam died, he had only 23 ribs. You get the idea.

Its called cherry picking. Yes some parts of the bible, perhaps a much as 20% were writen eventually ( we don't know about originally ) as poetic metaphors, but you can not use a part to justify the whole.

@Fernapple Yes.
It's also been said that one of the biggest advantages of performing live is that you get to polish your act by learning what works and what doesn't.

They tweaked their show for hundreds of years and what we see today is what survived. They had lots of time to polish their words(tu-ds? Lol).

I must admit I don't remember seeing the video you posted. Maybe you'll post it again? It sounds very interesting.

@brentan It was very good and well worth looking up, it makes clear the pitfalls of the metaphorical view. And shows how, 'maybe' the Hebrew original was distorted to fit Christian theology. Here it is.
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@Fernapple That's terrific, thanks a lot!

@Fernapple @brentan I wouldn't so much say "maybe" was distorted, it is in fact different. This difference in English changes somethings about the story. I do not see it so much as intentional just a fact of the change when translated from original language thru to English. If you consider the English name of Adam, it makes a difference from the original story. Video explains this better than I can.

I watched the video and really liked the positive vibe coming from it. I mean the idea that the fall was more like a step up than a step down. That left me wondering if the recrimination in the story was attached to it later. Another puzzle was that even though the adham was a hermaphrodite, Eve was said to come out of the adham, she is still treated as if she came out of Adam the man and is somehow less than him.

@brentan I like to think of it as splitting the DNA. its like there are 2 sides to the DNA one DNA "rib" is contributed with the sperm and the other DNA "rib" contributed with the egg fertilized. However, if you understand they are both present in the parent together so to say.

@brentan The incarnation having to do with "knowledge of good and evil". The advanced comprehension of a world of contrast. It is to gain a higher understanding or the greatest of cognative things to think about. The knowledge of good and evil covers just about anything and everything in one way or another. It is what I wrote my book about. The book with only one sentence: Chaper 1 In the beginning "There is good and there is evil." Last chapter The end.

I had the chat room on my other profile to make discussion of the knowledge of good and evil.

@Word Yes the maybe should perhaps have been left out. It is just that I like people to be free to judge themselves, and not to assert things myself.

The idea that this is, for all the imperfections of nature, a positive move towards consciousness alters the perception of the Fall. So what to make of Jesus in this scenario? Maybe the idea is that the world of innocence was a consciousness without any real cognition. Now we experience the full force of cognition and the idea of Jesus is to bring cognition and consciousness together. This is the gist of Owen Barfield and Julian Jaynes' ideas of the evolution of consciousness.

@brentan it's not so much imperfections in the world but if people realize "There is good and there is evil." Good as in accepted standard, evil as apart of nature is what the imperfections appears to be.

Three men and one woman. Had it been the other way round, it might have been more feasible!!

@Petter Either way, not a snowball's chance in a forest fire could the ENTIRE Human Race have come from such a minute Gene Pool of very closely related parents, IF it had we'd all be little more than dribbling, deformed and retarded imbeciles long before now.

@Triphid Aren't we?

@Triphid Being sensible, I know that, you know that, but it would have been a more feasible fable.

@Petter I don't know about you BUT I'm most definitely NOT a dribbling, deformed, retarded Imbecile.

@Petter Absolutely NO feasability at all either way.
The Genetic pool would have been swallower than a teaspoon of water to say the least, thus they'd have bred an ENTIRE population of quivering, dribbling, deformed, retarded Idiots and Imbeciles, check upon Genetic Studies.

To be fair, the story does say that Adam had "other sons and daughters" (Gen 5 3-4). And don't forget Seth! (Poor Seth, everyone forgets him.) So, with the five named parties, plus at least 2 more sons and at least 2 more daughters, we're up to at least 9 folks. Still pretty incestuous, but slightly more workable.

@Triphid Are you going to live for 800 years or so, then?
Maybe, in comparison to the long-lived, super-heroes of the early biblical times, we are the equivalent of "quivering, dribling, deformed, retarded idiots and imbeciles".
Then, let us not forget, the gene pool was again severely reduced during the time of that super mariner, Noah.
Fortunately, the good Lord in his fabulously fabled way, was able to create genetic variations in their offspring so that they could avoid having six fingers and toes. (Unfortunately, he didn't quite get it right in the town where I live, so we have quite a few people living here who can count in hex on their fingers.)

PS. It's no good trying to baffle me with common knowledge science - I started my working life as a bio-chemist in 1960.

@Petter Sorry my friend but there has NEVER a recorded human being who lived for 800 or more years, it IS all biblical bullshit and as a Biochemist you should know and realise that it IS 100% impossible, implausible as well unbelievable and illogical.

@Triphid Of course! I was merely using the hypothetical bible narrative to argue the biblical fable side. Don't for one second suspect I believe it.
It's basically a form of reductio al absurdum with satire added.

@Petter Yep, the whole Eve, Adam, Cain, Abel and Seth scenario kind of reminds me of a song that came out many years ago, i.e. Shame and Scandal in the Family if think it was called.
With Adam telling the boys to go for it because their mummy ain't their mummy but she doesn't know and with Eve doing exactly the same thing as well....LOL.

@Triphid I sometimes still sing it. A Calypso song from the early sixties, I think, written by Harry Belafonte.
I really liked his output.

The simple honest answer is it isn't religious anymore. The crimes of the RCC put an end to it completely.

True enough. I guess it was click-bait.