...as he let joe Mccarthy run amok.. and allowed ‘in god we..’ on our money, relegating this nation’s Atheists to ..3rd class citizens ever since ~ The only thing that makes Ike look good are those having come after him, like Nixon, Reagan, Bush Jr ..and ‘this.’ But he wasn’t the only good general and poor President..

Eisenhower was against McCarthy and he helped get NASA started too.

@twaseverthus He didn’t put the pressure on McCarthy, though.. He ignored that devastating political witch hunt, even choosing Nixon as his VP. It was one thing not to like it, and another to actually do something about it.. And he had to start NASA - Sputnik was overhead

Close! "Military-industrial complex".

Oh yeah! That!

“They all suck” … really.. Jimmy Carter ‘sucked?’ ..Barack Obama sucked..? That’s the attitude and depth of thought that brings us suckers (thankyouverymuch)

@Varn I was too young for Jimmy Carter. Obama did do some good things but the whole health-care act really pissed me off, mainly the tax penalty if you don't have it. Trump is just a disaster. As an adult not 1 has impressed me, nor any one in congress. ???

@Presley1209 @Varn I wasn't too thrilled with Obama's whole "drone strike assassinations against US ciitizens with no trial" thing. I don't care what you've done, the Constitution says you're entitled to a trial and as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it.

@Presley1209 Fair enough. It’s impossible for any president to please this nation, though I feel the best ones try.. Going back to Bill Clinton, he had Hillary come up with a ‘national healthcare plan,’ and from what I remember, it was great - comparable if not better than any in the world. Death by Republicans was it’s demise.

Instead, they prompted an ‘alternative.’ Later, assuming they’d back their own plan, Obama spent his political capital making ‘their alternative’ work, which foolishly became labeled Obama-care... It was a start, and was headed for the real thing ..until ‘this’ sorry excuse for a human being ..let alone a US President.

As for Congress, I’m from Oregon, so am perhaps spoiled ..but Jeff Merkley, Ron Wyden and congresswoman Suzanne Bonamici (my former reps) continue to impress me ~

@cmadler Obama got Osama, too ~ War is tuff stuff, and the term ‘collateral damage’ doesn't come from nowhere... I was so pissed over Obama’s Executive Amnesty that I left the Democratic Party! In fact, I could barely stomach Hillary’s ‘open border’ mentality … but neither came close to the negativity, deceit and detrimental effects of their opposition.. thus I would champion both.

@kenriley Wuv you too, buddy... lmao

@Redcupcoffee But,,, but.. you don't even know me... I'm guessing you would agree with me that anybody that would intentionally harm children should be put away, yes? Do we agree on that level?

Reagan did damage that is still being felt. He was the architect of the demise of the middle class. Among the worst in history.

Reagan ushered in the beginning of the end. No US president in my history gave more to the Religious-wrong than he. His having ‘faced down’ the Soviet Union had placed our advanced nuclear bomber squadrons on the runways of Europe - armed and ready more times than an ex-military friend of the time could remember.. He bulegerantly gambled with our lives then ‘lucked out’ that the Soviet’s though him dumb enough to actually attack … making ‘them’ the heroes of the cold war, not Reagan.

He was best described as an “Amiable Dupe,” and considering he’d ‘replaced’ one of the USA’s most intelligent and humanitarian presidents, a giant leap backward; comparable to the leap we’ve taken from Obama to ‘this.’ Reagan placed zealots in key cabinet positions, appointed the likes of Scalia to Federal Judgeships … then took naps with a full belly of jellybeans.. For all he gave the religious & far-wrong of this nation, and the trajectory he foolishly set in place, I consider him right there with the 3 worst presidents of my lifetime: Reagan, Bush Jr, and ‘this.’

I love to point out to RINOs that the last true Republican president was Eisenhower. For them, it's been all downhill since.

@Ozman the only true Republicans were Lincoln, Grant & Teddy all the rest are corrupt gangsters. ...Ike gave us McCarthyism and lies on our money IN gawd WE TRUST fuck Ike glad ReaGUN DIED A SLOW PAINFUL ALZHEIMERS death

@GreenAtheist But isn't corrupt gangster now the GOP brand?

@GreenAtheist Also, back in the day, people I know always referred to him as Ronnie Ray Gun (especially after he tried to push through the SDI)

...boy ..you're a lot older than you look

i extended the context to a president that i admired the most in the history of america. So I didn't exactly answer your question. but it was a good question

Shock value? Actually, he was only half-bad… I remember in HS, a few years from voting age, ending up in a large ‘double lab’ of students where our table of 6 promoted Nixon against ..countless tables supporting George McGovern. Brought up conservative, I’ve still got a fist full of ‘Nixon Now’ campaign buttons

As with Eisenhower, when comparing how far our nation’s stumbled to the right, Nixon can appear progressive. And we’ve had far, far worse since. But, I happily voted for Carter, when my opportunity arrived..

Nixon began the EPA and expanded access to healthcare. He'd never be elected by the right today.

@Ktcyan He had something like 174 IQ.

...testing the water?

Lololololol

Silly me. Thanks for the info.

Jimmy Carter was president when I was in High School. Wasn't very political myself but my parents were Republicans and so didn't like him.
I alway thought he made sense and was as honest as any president could be. Very sorry I waited 2 hours in line to vote for Reagan, thought my parents knew more about what we needed than I did, big mistake!
I think Jimmy Carter is a great example for all people, especially men as to what humans can achieve when they try. He and his wife have done more for humanity than anyone and they are still giving and doing for others, truly inspiring!

@Ktcyan goddamn right!

Many of them had zipper trouble, but when you exude that much intelligence and charisma … I suspect you’re constantly fighting off opportunity.. But glad to see another ‘Clinton vote.’ His ability to be slick made him the master of achievement. He maintained a progressive momentum though trimmed (with the help of Albert Gore Jr.) government like never before. There’ve been kinder, more giving Presidents during my lifetime.. James Earl Carter comes to mind, as well as Barack Obama, but as far as someone doing the most with the cards he’d been dealt - that man’s Clinton ~

@Varn Oh, yeah. Voted form him in 1992 and 1996. Was very glad to see him win that first term. I agree with you, he really knew his stuff.

@Redcupcoffee that is so funny I am laughing out loud!

...how old are you

79

@Redcupcoffee From what I have read Bobby was as bad as his brother. I don't remember the exacts but the feeling of being shattered. I thought of something I am going to put out. It is called "critical thinking" not critical feeling. We don't have to like what we learn and sometimes accepting something we don't like makes it even more meaningful.

Well, it had been Bush Jr, until now ~

@Varn until now.

Ditto!

I often think about where we'd be if we had listened to him about getting in bed with Saudi Arabia and other foreign entanglements among many other things. We could have easily sparked WW3 and didn't. We could have been a world leader in alternative energies too. Loved the solar panels on the White House.

I was born the day before JFK was assassinated. He was my president for only one day. I read that he was a good president.

Not me, and have wondered who would ‘get it right’

Same here

Good ol Mickey! I sure wish he was president now. If only the anti-politics ,anti-clinton ,anti-trump group would have gotten their heads together he could have been

I’ve had some insightful feedback for decades now from relatives in Sweden, a newspaper reporter, author and his science editor wife… They were happy to give me the European view on several presidents, beginning with Carter, whom they admired. They were ‘astonished’ at ‘America’s reaction’ regarding Clinton’s ‘sex scandal,’ describing in Europe, that went with the job! They said Clinton was considered brilliant. And were beyond impressed with our election of Obama, assuming American had grown up!

Now, they’re listening ‘to me’ ... as they’ve no idea why we shot ourselves in the head

Andrew Johnson or Lyndon B. Johnson?