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I had in interesting session with my
therapist. The “god” question came up.
She said that believing in a god helps her
cope with things. That it also helps her become
a better person.
I asked her if without a god would she be a
terrible person otherwise?
I mentioned the parts of the bible that disturb me.
She said that she only takes into account the
good parts that help her.
She said that is “her placebo” wether its
true or not. Then she said it could even be a rock.
I said so you can believe in a rock?
She said yes if it helps me cope.
She said whatever helps us cope in life that’s
not harmful to us.
Well next session I will explain why the “god”
belief is harmful. My time with her ran out.

Wildgreens 8 Oct 26
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[seculartherapy.org] <--- a source for secular therapists started by Darrel Ray

Thank you very much for sharing this. 😃

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I absolutely love what you did there.

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I had a therapist who started spouting some wacky conspiracy theories at me at one point: aliens built the pyramids, dinosaurs lived at the same time as humans, etc. I stuck around for a while... but it wasn't worth getting into an argument about. I'm looking for a therapist who better supports my skeptical beliefs now. I'm not sure how a conflict about the belief in God is beneficial to your mental health.

It’s not.

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Perhaps she conceives of herself as something of a puppet in the "grand scheme" of things.

Perhaps she does like most.

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Wow these bastards will try and worm their way into peoples head any way they can. This therapist obviously has zero ethics.

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I agree with everyone else who says you should charge her not pay her. This thought that you have to believe in something to cope with life is disturbing to me. What if my belief hurts others? Also atheist get told we cherry pick the bible for the worst quotes but it is okay for someone who believes in it to cherry pick only the bits they want to believe? Good luck but I would try to find a different therapist.

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I have heard it said that people in the psychology field are either crazy to begin with or become crazy from being with many other crazy people. It seems you should be the one giving her advice and help as she obviously needs it.

Obviously so since she believes rocky saves.

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Therapy is supposed to be dealing with Your problems...will this help You?
You are paying for these sessions, I presume? That perhaps someone else might Need.....?

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First, why see a therapist at all? Second, the one you are seeing sound very shallow.

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Change your therapist

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Was she suggesting religion as a part of your therapy, or just sharing her personal views?

skado Level 9 Oct 26, 2020

Just her own view, she wasn’t preaching but made a comment saying something like-
“I just give it to god” then she said “right”?
I didn’t answer yet, then
She said that believing in a god helps her
cope with things. That it also helps her become
a better person.
I asked her if without a god would she be a
terrible person otherwise?
I mentioned the parts of the bible that disturb me.
She said that she only takes into account the
good parts that help her.
She said that is “her placebo” wether its
true or not. Then she said it could even be a rock.
I said so you can believe in a rock?
She said yes if it helps me cope.
She said whatever helps us cope in life that’s
not harmful to us.

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According to "Terror Management Theory," as described in "The Worm at the Core, the Role of Death in Life," cultures provide a buffer between one's recognition that we are mortal, and the terror thereof, by creating a worldview in which we see ourselves as an important part of a larger universe, which includes religion. So, when she said that it helps her cope, this may have been an unrecognized piece of that coping mechanism.
As an atheist one does not contemplate some sort of eternal existence, anywhere, so dead is dead, simply. We can think of "living on" in the legacy we leave behind, however. This is the perspective of Existential Psychology, as espoused by Dr. Irvin Yalom.

All good, but religion isn’t only about death. It’s more about how to live.

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As your time ran out perhaps you should have followed permanently.

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A therapist like this could have you wanking off in no time. It might help you but only a male would recommend it.

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I'm not fully qualified yet, but I feel I could do a better job for you already.
Firstly she should forensically regress your life history and observe you, your spoken and body language. Then investigate the route through what you need for whatever your psychological answer is.

I have yet to find a secular therapist. You are right.

When you say "forensically regress your life history", are you talking about recovered memory therapy? I only ask because there is no scientific verification of recovered memory, and a ton of evidence that it leads to confabulation and the construction of false memories.

@Paul4747 No, forensic unpacking of the subject's life through observable evidence. We pick behaviours through socialisation throughout the journey of life. By observing these a good psychologist can unpack and discover hidden secrets to the triggers of our problems.
Trying to find out who we were in a past life is scientifically 'bollocks'. Why are so many people in their past lives Cleopatra or a handmaiden thereof?
At the moment the science of psychology cannot confirm that forensic unpacking of a subject's psyche will produce true answers as us psychologists will be subjective in our findings no matter how hard we try to be objective. For myself, it is the best method we have to use though. I am currently working with a number of clients where much of their life secrets have been left unstudied, yet these are crucial to producing mechanisms to give them greater autonomy, fun and control of themselves.

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I’d like to hear why you think “the god belief” is necessarily harmful in such a case where the “believer” in effect acknowledges that they don’t really believe, but use it as a placebo.
Thanks.
And I hope you’ll let us know what she says.

skado Level 9 Oct 26, 2020

the point is that many believers do not acknowledge that fact, and as such can cause great damage to people...

@VineetHonkan
I’m talking about this particular case.

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What kind of "therapist" injects religious nonsense into pain management dream management anxiety relief and other REAL counseling needs ??? Alleging a gawd & bible verses are useful when instead ARE HARMFUL cannot help with real fears afraid of perpetrators out there ..... women are far more likely to be harmed than males and religions offer zero protections from violence out there .... time wasted "believing" is time that could be applied to learning solutions to real problems

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