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How are they supposed to live the materialistic dream of acquiring unnecessary amounts of cheap meaningless junk without the exploitation of the desperate? 🤷

Zoltans_Queen 6 Jan 18
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Ignorance and mischaracterization of what capitalism is

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@Zoltans_Queen

Here it is...

"No freebies and handouts to anyone, to the rich or poor. Discontinue all subsidies, food stamps, obscene tax loopholes, lower tax brackets for the rich, deductions for political donations, unemployment handouts, free insurance, free education immediately.

Make it fair to all, make it a leveled playing field. Provide more opportunities and support but nothing free to anyone. Pay equal rate of tax and get equal government services."

@St-Sinner

Sounds like a libertarian hellscape. Count me out.

@Zoltans_Queen

America has built its economic power, trading power, military power, and its leadership on the back of its financial success and might. It also does plenty of charity and good around the world.

I am yet to meet a socialist American who wants to move to a socialist country like Cuba, Venezuela, East Europe or elsewhere. They remind me of Barabra Streisand's character in the movie "The Way We Were" where she hates many things about America, talks up socialism but loves everything capitalism offers... Stores abundant with goods, competition, shiny car showrooms where you can drive out in a new car the same day etc.

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$7.25 is basically slave wages. These jobs are basically subsidized by government programs. $15/hr is inflationary but...So what?

A higher minimum wage is good for everyone. Except the owners who would have to part with some of their inflated profits. Thanks for your comment 🙂

@Zoltans_Queen Some small businesses will not be able to survive a $15 minimum wage. Wal-Mart will be fine. Not all "owners" are rich.

@barjoe

I've heard a lot of people say that, but I don't think I believe it. Decades ago, the min wage was at a value that was more than $15, adjusted for inflation. Small businesses were doing fine back then.

@DangerDave

This is my attitude as well. If you can't pay your employees a living wage, don't hire employees, do the work yourself. If you can't do all the work yourself, hire people, and give them a living wage. If neither of those work, don't be in business.

I would also push it a step further and say that the employees should own the business collectively. That seems to be the most fair and efficient way of doing things from where I'm sitting.

@DangerDave

I totally agree with that. I'm thinking more along the lines of large businesses. I think amazon workers should own the company collectively as a worker co-op rather than the profits going into the bank account of a man who already has more money than he could ever spend in a thousand lifetimes.

Small operations and especially creative endeavors, yeah that's a different story.

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