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LINK 'Incredibly stupid' Ron Johnson ripped by Morning Joe for new attempt to downplay the Capitol insurrection - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

Ron Johnson might feel differently if he were confined with nylon restraints. I wouldn't even want to imagine if he were bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher. Talk like a tough guy when you're a skinny, girly man? He's up for re-election 2022. Wisconsin Democrats! Rally around a popular Democrat and take this bum out.

barjoe 9 Feb 16
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he tried to equate the insurrection with riots and that they were not armed but they took guns and ammo and stun guns and they killed so it was violent and dangerous ....grrrr where are the sharp shooters of this generation

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Johnson is a dick who almost lost some skin. haha.

i cannot believe some of the bullshit that he says

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Well, it's clear you're not a Sen Johnson fan. Got that part. But where is the info on the number of weapons confiscated? In a trial for insurrection related issues surely we would have a detailed analysis of the weaponry brought in. I had never even thought about this aspect until the Sen. mentioned. I just assumed any related weapons were discussed as that would have been just a basic accepted standard idea. To think this was not discussed is mind blowing. Sure Sen. Johnson must have stepped out for a break and missed it? In any Trial there is evidence, and surely a cache of weaponry brought to Capitol would be thoroughly discussed and one of the main points proving case? Where is the list? I think knowing exactly how many weapons were brought in would help me to believe more in the "insurrection" aspect if there were in fact many weapons, bullets, related devices etc. I know reading texts was alarming to me, but did the ppl texting have the capability to enact the heinous plans? For instance, I read mention of gassing. Where do we see the list of weaponry or other hazardous items, like gas? We should know what we were dealing with on a criminal level at a trial, right?

I assume he either knew ahead of time to shelter in place, which I think is quite possible. Otherwise he would be crying like a pussy just like everybody else in that building. He is not that smart, somebody wrote this up for him to say. He's a lacky. It's ironic that you guys all back the blue, which I've always have done myself. When Capitol Police were protecting against Storm Troopers, guys like you and Ron Johnson justify bad citizens committing brutality against cops. Just like you justify bad cops committing brutality against citizens.

I have friends that think like you. We were sitting in a bar and news showed Russian cops beating the shit out of protesters and my friends liked it. If police had done that to the MAGA crowd, they'd be screaming dictatorship. When they do it to blacks and liberal white protesters, that's okay. Meanwhile they didn't do shit when thugs were looting and robbing this summer. That would be the time to get out rubber bullets and teargas. Even lethal ammo could've been justified. If black people had stormed the Capitol, they would've been shot on sight, and rightfully so, as they should've done to these MAGAs, on January 6th.

Trump was determined to not to enforce the law. Gov Hogan and Sec of Army authorized the Nat Guard and Trump was pissed about it. DoD Secretary Miller was ordered to hold the Guard back, even though VP Pence, who alt-right has turned into a villain, was trying to activate the guard and nobody took his calls. This is documented.

@barjoe You made incorrect assumptions about my opinions. I don't justify brutality or violence or any violent clashes at all. Not Capitol Rioters. Not police (except when there is no other chioce). Not any other groups. This is precisely why I can't see eye to eye with Dems at the current time. Still I ask, why wouldn't the weapons evidence be presented at the impeachment trial? This is a basic point. If you read this story on politifact Ron Johnson has been labeled big liar, but even there, there is not a detailed list of weapons that were confiscated from the rioters that had breached the Capitol, which is a key point in insurrection. I know it got violent. I know police were attacked. Police attacks were going on all year 2020. I think 700 officers injured? It's crucial in a trial to present evidence that builds your case. Was this done at impeachment? There were weapons confiscated from OUTSIDE the Capitol, but then how does politifact feel it's appropriate to call him a big liar? These weapons ppl had OUTSIDE the Capitol were, like all the weapons, arsons and bombings attacks, murders that occurred in protests 2020 proof that ppl are becoming INCREASINGLY VIOLENT OVERALL. And possibly that's bcuz in large part the big liars in the msm.

@Flowerwall I think looters should be met with whatever level of force is necessary. That goes for those that burned down MplPD precinct and the MAGA crowd on January 6th. I don't know if the term "Armed" Insurrection is perfect but it was an insurrection. These people came from all over the country to do this. The pieces of garbage who looted, in my neighborhood, came from here. They destroyed all the stores in the neighborhood. None of them were protesters. They were street gangs or neighborhood critters. I sat on my step with my Taurus Judge. None of them came on my block, but I was prepared to protect myself and my home.

@barjoe Okay is an "unarmed insurrection" even an insurrectiion? Or is it more of wanting to break in and send the message that they are dissatisfied with govt handling of voting concerns? I know ppl died, but was any person intentionally murdered? I'm not minimizing the violence that did occur. But in no way, shape ot form did it appear there were any real plans to attempt a takeover of the govt.

@Flowerwall "dissatisfied with govt handling of voting concerns?" Really?
People who express their "dissatisfaction" in that manner are no better than looters and rioters.They are worse, because if they commit violence against police like they did, they deserve to be shot down like rabid dogs, as would radical Muslims. If you think there weren't "any real plans to attempt a takeover of the govt", then you are a fool. Oathkeepers and Proud Boys overran an intentionally insufficient force that was sacrificed by DONALD TRUMP to facilitate the overturning of a duly elected government. If you believe conspiracies espoused by Sidney Powell, Rudolf Giuliani, Ron Johnson, you are no better than a radicalized Muslim or Xtian cult members.

@barjoe "People who express their "dissatisfaction" in that manner are no better than looters and rioters." I never said they were. But it's definately on par with what went on last year. In fact I think there was more pressure and demand put on govt last year, which is more in line with "insurrection" idea than this Capitol riot. I think ppl in general are getting more violent and that's the REAL ISSUE. And everyone is failing to address it. I think the black community felt threatened and this is a basis of starting protests that lead to riots. The video of GFloyd's death is very disturbing to watch. I can understand how upset it is making ppl feel, but this is ONE instance of a bad interaction. The media/politicians keeps pushing "white supremacist" so ppl feel this problem is everywhere. I think it's time the members of this country really start focusing on understanding propaganda and the damning effects it can have on society. Remember, other nations who can be viewed as our rivals in certain respects, LOVE to see unrest and division among our ppl. This is what they strive for. Americans have to understand that this division will never be to Americans' best interest. We are ONE country. I know GOP isn't filled with white supremecists be cause how do you go about explaining Vernon Jones? Listen to him talk about Trump's accomplishments for black community. Am I to say everything he says is untrue? I don't think so. I just learned he even crowd surfed at the RNC this year to show support for Trump. That I didn't know.

@Flowerwall Vernon Jones is a crooked politician and a sellout.

@barjoe I won't debate your last remark because I don't know enough about him, but hopefully you are not insulting someone's life's work because they are an opposing voice to your own viewpoint. He was a Democrat, so really you are raising an issue about Dem choice for voter's representation all this time? Let's be fair. Was he good at what he did during that time?

@Flowerwall I'm not from Georgia, but I know he's been indicted for bid rigging, charges that later got dropped. This was 10 years ago or so. So I'll say he was good at bid rigging for public projects, good enough that they couldn't make the charges stick. He's also a religious fundamentalist and makes a big deal about pornography and stuff.

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