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The fascinating thing about the #Ukraine war is the sheer number of top #Western strategic thinkers and scholars who have warned for years that it was coming if we continued down the path. No-one listened to them and now we have fools putting the blame solely on Russia and Putin. 🙄🤦🏻♂️
A small compilation of some of these warnings, from #HenryKissinger to #Mearsheimer are presented here (compiled by RnaudBertrand).
WESTERN STRATEGIC THINKERS WHO HAD WARNED OF UKRAINIAN CONFLICT

  1. George #Kennan, America's foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy. As early as 1998 he warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia".
  2. Henry #Kissinger, in 2014. He warned that "to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country" and that the West therefore needs a policy that is aimed at "reconciliation".
    He was also adamant that "Ukraine should not join NATO"
  3. John Mearsheimer - arguably the leading geopolitical scholar in the US today - in 2015: "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked [...] What we're doing is in fact encouraging that outcome."
  4. Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed"
  5. Clinton's defense secretary William Perry explained, in his memoir, that to him NATO enlargement is the cause of "the rupture in relations with Russia" and that in 1996 he was so opposed to it that "in the strength of my conviction, I considered resigning".
  6. Stephen Cohen, a famed scholar of Russian studies, warning in 2014 that "if we move NATO forces toward Russia's borders [...] it's obviously gonna militarize the situation [and] Russia will not back off, this is existential"
  7. CIA director Bill Burns in 2008: "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for [Russia]" and "I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests". (He was then Ambassador to Moscow in 2008 when he wrote this memo). He is now director of the CIA. ‘08 memo ‘Nyet Means Nyet: Russia's NATO Enlargement Redlines’
  8. Russian-American journalist Vladimir Pozner, in 2018, stated that: NATO expansion in Ukraine is unacceptable to the Russian, that there has to be a compromise where "Ukraine, guaranteed, will not become a member of NATO."
  9. Malcolm #Fraser, 22nd prime minister of Australia, warned in 2014 that "the move east [by NATO is] provocative, unwise and a very clear signal to Russia". He adds that this leads to a "difficult and extraordinarily dangerous problem".
  10. Paul #Keating, former Australian PM, in 1997: expanding NATO is "an error which may rank in the end with the strategic miscalculations which prevented Germany from taking its full place in the international system [in early 20th]"
  11. Former US defense secretary Bob Gates in his 2015 memoirs: "Moving so quickly [to expand NATO] was a mistake. [...] Trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was truly overreaching [and] an especially monumental provocation"
  12. Pat Buchanan, in his 1999 book A Republic, Not an Empire: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation."
  13. In 1997, a group of individuals including Robert McNamara, Bill Bradley & Gary Hart wrote a letter to Bill Clinton warning the "US led effort to expand NATO is a policy error of historic proportions" and would "foster instability" in Europe. Today it's fringe, traitorous position.
  14. Dmitriy Trenin expressed concern that Ukraine was, in the LT, the most potentially destabilizing factor in US-Russian relations, given the level of emotion & neuralgia triggered by its quest for NATO membership.
  15. Sir Roderic Lyne, former British ambassador to Russia, warned a year ago that "[pushing] Ukraine into NATO [...] is stupid on every level." He adds "if you want to start a war with Russia, that's the best way of doing it."
  16. Even last year, famous economist Jeffrey #Sachs, writing a column in the FT warning that "NATO enlargement is utterly misguided and risky. True friends of Ukraine, and of global peace, should be calling for a US and NATO compromise with Russia."
  17. Fiona Hill :"We warned [George Bush] that Mr. Putin would view steps to bring Ukraine and Georgia closer to NATO as a provocative move that would likely provoke pre-emptive Russian military action. But ultimately, our warnings weren’t heeded."
  18. Aleksandr Dugin, in 1997, had predicted everything that Putin has done, in his book "Foundation of Geopolitics."
    EVERYBODY knew that trying to rope Ukraine into NATO was crossing Russia's red line, but now people would like to hold up Russia as a villain.
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Archeus_Lore 7 Mar 17
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Is that meme with the mushroom cloud supposed to condone nuclear blackmail?

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Calling paleocon Pat Buchanan and Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin “Western strategic thinkers” is a priceless hoot. Robert McNamara brought us Vietnam. Kissinger put us into Cambodia and the coup against Allende happened on his watch. Many of the rest might have a cogent point to make if Hungary, Poland, and the Baltics are seen as mere pawns lacking agency. Were they forced to join NATO at gun point or did they have to make an effort? Would Hungary and Poland prefer to revert to the Warsaw Pact?

Since when did the wishes of small nations like Poland, Hungary or any without the means to defend themselves against great powers matter at all? The USA actually PUSHED North Korea into becoming a nuclear power. Now they have the nerve to call this "Russian Agreession", it is such a stupid statement, but the American BORG lap it up.
When you corner the bear, don't expect it to lay down and die at your feet. No one has ever succeeded in conquering and holding Russia and this time around Putin has said that an invasion would be met with a nuclear response. Keep pushing and that is what you will get . . . .

@Archeus_Lore So you are saying the wishes of Poland or Hungary mean nothing to you? Should they get bulldozed over by Putin’s ego? Are you what they used to call a tankie? Seems you got sucked into a Borg cube that former Russian satellites want no part of for very good reason.

North Korea’s paranoid great leaders pushed themselves into acquiring nukes. I guess you could give a shit less about South Korea too. Or Japan.

The old Russia called and wants its obsolete tsarism back where it belongs locked in a historical archive. Ironically on a nonbeliever board you are pushing for Russian Orthodoxy and the return of Byzantinism.

@Scott321 Damn, you are saying some seriously stupid things. "So you are saying the wishes of Poland or Hungary mean nothing to you?" Do you think that how I feel about the wishes of Poland or Hungary are in any way going to change a fucking thing? As for North Korea, you seem to have forgotten just how much the USA destroyed of North Korea with bombs, and the resulting reaction of those who were fortunate enough to live through it, and I doubt you have ever even contemplated what they went through in any serious way.

"The old Russia called and wants its obsolete tsarism back where it belongs locked in a historical archive. Ironically on a nonbeliever board you are pushing for Russian Orthodoxy and the return of Byzantinism."

Another dumb statement. You do not know me, and yet you make clueless claims about me. Keep trying though . . . .

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Great post for those not brainwashed by emotional manipulation.

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Thank you, Comrade.

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Even if all the warnings are true...it doesn't matter. If the world is headed to a nuclear showdown Putin and Russia will still loose. Maybe the world needs a good enema anyway. Time to wipe the shit off the asshole of the world I say...

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