(I remember the Oklahoma City bomber thought the bombing would start a civil war that would culminate in the second coming of Jesus. Fanatics are delusional. The more fanatical, the more delusional.)

A man who pleaded guilty in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said her abduction could have been the "ignition" for a U.S. civil war involving antigovernment groups, possibly before the 2020 election.

Ty Garbin described a scheme to get the Democratic governor during his testimony Wednesday against four former allies who are charged with conspiracy. He told jurors that they wanted to attack before the election to prevent Joe Biden from winning the presidency.