@azzow2 which? Fossil fuels, maybe never....although I do love driving combustible engined ‘chinery. As far as the moment one realized they could subjugate another into believing something outside of themselves could have total power over them— I think I’d just leave that out of history totally. I think once the concept of God was invented was when peoples’ moral compasses started going all over the place. I could be wrong, but it does seem to be when a lot of horrible wars started coming about. Fighting for land was one thing. Fighting for land in the name of GOD was another.

They know now that ,many petroleum products can be made out of plant fibers, the world still relies on too much oil. There are bacteria that reproduce rapidly that burn just like petroleum could easily replace oil. The problem these have getting off the ground and stop the oil stranglehold is our government officials are allowed to oil futures, hence controlling oil prices causing econinocial repression.