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Iowa citizens are smart enough to count the votes of every area except the places that are Bernie's biggest support and all of a sudden the DNC has to come in and take over. If that don't show all u need to know its possible u will never be able to see. I'm guessing the app Bernie supporters used to report back to the campaign was a big unexpected monkey wrench in the DNCs plan to screw him over and now they got to find the actual real numbers instead of the ones that the Pete funded app trumped up. It's amazing just how ignorant the dem leadership is and will be even more amazing that anyone is left registered to the party after this primary is rigged just like in 2016. When will people realize the dems are worse than repubs when it comes to election meddling. Russia dreams of influencing our elections just 10% of what the dem party itself rigs them against their own supporters. Atleast repubs didn't cheat Trump to stop him but we are to believe dems are full of integrity and fairness while repubs are Russia.

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I'm not so sure they can get away with it twice. If they steel it from Bernie again, there will be a progressive insurrection. Are they arrogant and stupid enough to alienate an entire wing of the party? Well actually, yes they probably are.

@jorj Which is why we need to make some consequences for them. I think we should vote for Bernie even if they take the nomination away from him again. Hell, maybe he will even muster up the gumption to run as an independent.

@jorj If hundreds of thousands, of democrats were to vote for Sanders in protest, that would send apowerful message.

I just don't see a third party working. But you're right, if we all started dropping out of the party, they would have to do something to address it. If they screw Bernie again, I will do that

@jorj I feel obligated to try and convince you to sign up with the Democratics again to vote in the primary. Right now, my main concern is to try and drum up as many Sanders vote as possible because I'm holding out hope that if he wins by wide enough margins, they won't be able to cheat him. Which state are you in?

I totally get that the party is despicable but please consider voting in the primary. It can't hurt anything but there is a chance that it could help. Maybe it's a fools errand but I'm not going to give up on it until I see for sure that there is no way that Bernie can take over the party and fix it.

@jorj Fair enough. I'll probably be joining you on that soon.

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Spot on. All those who simply say "Democrats, good. Republicans, bad" are damaging our democracy by shutting out 10's of millions of Americans who are un- and underinsured, homeless, poverty-stricken, working but living on an unlivable wage, imprisoned, et. cetera. I'm speaking primarily of neoliberals, who think everything will be aok if we just get rid of Trump. They intentionally ignore those less privileged, making them complicit with the cruel 1 percenters...

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