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Neoliberals never get my vote!

Snickers77 8 Sep 20
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It's a global trend in Anglo Saxon countries since the 1980s: corruption of parties on the Left by neoliberalism and free market ideology, which has been only to the benefit of the elites and the political Right. To paraphrase Mr Colmey, Lordy, may it come to an end. It will only happen with a surge from the ground up, from activism at grassroots level. It hasn't even started here in Australia. Some signs in the US though.

David1955 Level 8 Sep 20, 2018
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Makes me wonder if Putin's smear offensive is behind this. You know, the Russians are STILL very actively planting fake "grass roots" social media messages, and they are doing it on the left as much as on the Right. The aim is to poison our entire political discourse so that we are incapable of finding and constructive broad consensus anymore. Let's not give Putin such easy satisfaction.

Putin is doing what is best for himself and Russia. Donald Trump ended with him in the pockets of Putin They did mess with the Electoral College and gave Trump the presidency, at a cost, Keep in mind that Hillary Clinton actually won with 3 million votes more that Trump. How is it possible that Trump can win under such circumstances. The Electoral College is a spent tool designed to elect Republicans when they do not have enough votes. It should be abolished and we should revert to one man- one vote. Than would make elections more fair. What happen with Trump was a bloodless coup 'd 'etat.

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So just like that, Elizabeth Warren sank from Darling of the progressives to just another litmus test reject. I wonder who DOES get your vote when your preferred "dream candidate" doesn't make it to the ballot. This holier-than-thou ideological purity contest is indeed a large part of why Trump is president. Our democracy is under dire threat, but it is not from the extreme right; it is also because the nation is so extremely polarized that those most proud of their political activism become primed to turn against their own at the drop of a hat.

@Snickers77 you are illustrating my point about holier-than-thou attitude getting progressives nowhere. It is so much easier to slam politicians wholesale and name-call people who disagree with you than to constructively promote the ideas of specific politicians you like the most. THAT would be helpful.

Your approach guarantees that the collectively left of center remain splintered enough to allow ACTUAL fascists to run the country. Nicely done, you!

@Snickers77 you see what you want. From my vantage point, you are unhinged, and grossly insulting, which is why I have not tried to appease you. You are obviously primed to take offense at the drop of a hat. It has been you, not me, who has repeatedly hurled insults, and that is NOT okay.

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And this is why we have President Trump.

To defend my position: I am a lifelong Roosevelt Democrat - the forerunner of Democratic socialism. I'm 62 years old, a privileged, middle class white guy. Bernie was my dream candidate and I gladly supported him for in his successful Michigan primary. And yet, I gladly voted for a candidate, Hillary Clinton, who I viewed as flawed, but was so far above the only other candidate that had any chance of winning. A thought experiment I've tried is to imagine how the political chasm would have manifested itself if Clinton had won instead of Trump. It's not pretty in my mind.

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