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Who's watching the debate? I'm not, I can just get the highlights tomorrow (and the next day).

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Sorry you're not watching

Progressives who care deeply for our nations future are paying close attention to every voice.

I'm not suggesting you don't care deeply; I'm suggesting that those who are watching - in general - care more, and want to be a better educated voter.

Media highlights of the debates are just that - highlights.

Watching each debate is an education for anyone who participates...and an educated voter is more valuable than a voter who's just viewed "highlights".

Robecology Level 8 July 30, 2019

Are they saying anything worth hearing?

@altschmerz To me....they are.

But....

I respect your non-interest.

Some of us are more concerned about our candidates than others. That doesn't make you less of a devotee to progressivism. Some of us have the time to watch, some don't. It's not a cut and dry issue.

@Robecology heh heh, okay, you sound a little condescending here. "Some of us are more concerned about our candidates than others"? Really?

I posted this before, but obviously you didn't bother to read it: [inc.com]

They lob softball questions at the candidates and don't say anything of consequence: [wsws.org]

And the debates don't include everybody. [openthedebates.org]

But some of us are more concerned about real issues rather than cheap talking points than others. That doesn't make you less of a devotee to progressivism. Some of us read alternative media and have unorthodox opinions, some don't. It's not a cut and dry issue.

@altschmerz This is simple to me...The more you listen and watch the better you know them.

Stop taking this personally.

I'm not being condescending....

you're convinced that you shouldn't watch...good for you.

I'm convinced that I should watch. I think it's valuable. You don't.

That doesn't make either of us better.

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I’m getting pretty pissed off at the circular firing squad approach to picking a presidential candidate. And I can’t stand the reporters heavy-handed attempts at moderation. All that aside, it hurts me to see so many excellent people doing such a shitty job of convincing people they should be president. I still think Elizabeth Warren has the best shot. I also think the younger candidates need to develop a great deal more experience before they tackle the presidency. Sigh but nobody asked for my opinion.

jerry99 Level 8 July 30, 2019

My brother and my cousin (who works in Washington DC btw) both favor Elizabeth Warren. I have issues with her, but she's better than some. I'd vote for her.

I have to agree, on all counts. The circular firing squad seems to be the Democratic party's go-to approach to losing elections, which they've proven themselves to be really good at.

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Obama said that the best way to beat the Republicans is to vote for whomever wins the Democratic nomination. While I find the lack of leadership in the party to support a platform dismaying, it is what it is. Until the whole political system blows up and we get to start over, this is currently the best way I think my vote will count.

CrazyQuilter Level 7 Aug 3, 2019

Of course Obama said that, he backed Hillary (and will probably back Biden).

Apparently I missed some good theater those two days. Going to go look for the highlights on YouTube.

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Will check later

bobwjr Level 9 July 30, 2019
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Eventually there are two primary human approaches to life: competition or cooperation.

We seem to have been persuaded that competition is the pre-eminent way - and now apply it to absolutely everything.

That’s unfortunate given how much better the results of free cooperation are. The issue of course is that there are many fewer opportunities for the greedy bastards to accumulate all the power and eat all the pies.

OwlInASack Level 8 July 30, 2019
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The fact they won't put all the front runners together makes them useless to me

JesseBoren Level 7 July 31, 2019
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I tried, but found it impossible.

Bobby9 Level 8 July 31, 2019
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