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After watching MSM down play Bernie and Elizabeth and Try to play up Biden (fail), they played up the Center/Right.. Buttigeig, Klobucher, Harris...the 2 non committals Booker, Castro where interesting..Yang was just a foil..know nothing..thoughts?

Charlene 9 Sep 12
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Klobucher, Booker, Castro and Yang shouldn’t be there.Rather see Tulsi Gabbard up there over them.
Harris looks weaker each time i see her, almost seemed like she was on something. Biden needs to go, he just isn’t there. Bernie stays on message well (not always the best salesman) but he is 100% for us. Warren is good and Spunky, but not convinced she is 100% to the left of the fence

Canndue Level 8 Sep 14, 2019
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@Charlene I agree with most of what you say...up to Yang. He's far from "know nothing"...I think he earned a berth in this debate because he has substantial support - and wisdom. I'm not saying I'd vote for him...yet...but calling him "just a foil"....sorry....can't agree.

Robecology Level 9 Sep 13, 2019
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Biden showed he is too old and passed his sell by date ... he may be ok for 1 year, but the job would kill him
Of the others .... no-one seems to shine like an outright winner ... and none of them looked like a trump killer

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This is what I thought how the candidate performances came across:

  1. Joe Biden -- mumbled but was forceful and spoke better. His best debate performance ever but he still stumbled for words and age showed.
  2. Elizabeth Warren -- was soft, articulate and likable as always, people thought after the debate that she did not come on top but polls show she was the top winner
  3. Beto O'Rourke -- got his moments on gun control topic and he shined but I cannot understand why he keeps moving and shaking out of camera focus, Arn't his advisers telling him anything?
  4. Pete Buttigieg - was articulate and likable. He is polling as one of the winners in most polls but I think he failed to break out

All others can go home and save us time and agony of sparring and tearing each other apart in making debates freak shows. Bernie could not even get a hair cut before the debate? He looks like an old grandpa who keeps giving the same answer to every question. The fight against the rich.... like there is no other issue in the nation.

St-Sinner Level 9 Sep 13, 2019

@ToolGuy I agree. He has a good message but is a bad messenger. I do not want a one directional fanatic old, hunchback to be my president. Maybe the next Democrat President can make the HHSC secretary. He can do all he wants.

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Biden just seemed old. That's not bad to be old, but when he said something about having your kids listen to records I laughed out loud. Castro trying to attack Biden was pathetic. I loved Beto's passion on guns but don't think he will go much farther. Booker sounded much stronger but I wonder how much longer he can hang on. Harris had some zingers, I loved how she spoke directly to trump, but I'm still waiting for her to share actual policies. Klobuchar didn't move me any closer to supporting her. Bernie didn't sound good, like he was losing his voice, maybe he has a cold? I still question his healthcare plan. Yang is a nice guy, has some interesting ideas, but I don't see him going much further. Warren was succinct about what she wants to do and constantly challenged big business and trump. Mayor Pete is super intelligent but I think to young and inexperienced.

Agreed with what you say, Yang took to bribing potential supporters and just flounded from there..

@Charlene Yes...I heard about that "bribe" offer....slick....and maybe even illegal....folks are looking in to that now. Disappointing.

@Robecology I've only seen post-snippets but think that both Yang and Castro marginalised themselves further with their desperate bids to be "noticed" -- the bribe and the rabid attack (which is also said to be factually wrong). Seem to be coming steadily down to a core of Biden (though offers nothing in policy), Bernie, Warren, Harris and Buttigieg. I've been a solid backer of Bernie both on policies (which most of the civilised world already have, as he keeps saying) and as president, but one of the Late Show send-ups of him last night physically acting his age, being hunched and bellowing his presentation was shockingly real. Still, in Warren apparently proposing a 40-year tax plan to cut the inequality in the States by half, this is absolutely an insult to any left-wing pretences on her part. Where to go? Dunno.

@Garbonza Your wrap-up comments are the most important...."where to go? Dunno." Stay inquisitive, my friend. We all need to team up on this one...or we're gonna be surprised by another 4 years of DJT....

@Bobby9 I was. Felt like I wasted 3 hours of my time.....

@Bobby9, @Charlene yeah, really. What was that all about????

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