Hating the rich and blaming them for our failures is not a solution or policy. The poor is not the responsibility of the rich. If the rich commit wrong doing such as exploitation, law breaking.... the law and enforcement should prosecute them with the full extent of the law. Not otherwise. We cannot scapegoat financial success.
What kind of Fucking Dream World do you live in ????
Law enforcement is ruthless on the poor, lenient on the rich. As well, laws—beginning with the U.S. Constitution—are designed to protect property owners, the same men who wrote the Constitution. It’s the poor who are scapegoated and underrepresented.
@St-Sinner Law and order is the cry of the protected class. The great liberators of history disobeyed the laws to force the gatekeepers to relinquish their power to workers and the poor. Read A People’s History of the United States. Read the history of the Civil Rights Movement. Read anything except the tag lines in Fox News.
That might be fine if we lived in a world where all started off equally, if all had the same chances, if all wealth was created by hard work, initiative and entrepreneurial drive, and legally and fairly. But it is not. Class, inheritance, rigged systems of capital and governmental rules, grossly unfair taxation on worked rather than investment income, and the 'legal' shonkery of wealth elites through their lawyers and financial advisers, mean none of that is true. That is why we need genuine mixed economies, with taxation measures to balance wealth distribution, a public interest structure, call it government, to exercise some power to achieve public outcomes towards greater equity. It's not simple. Getting the balance right is hard. Yes, it is called Socialism, or more correctly democratic socialism. But the alternative is exactly what we are seeing: oligarchy and autocratic rule by wealth elites, for whom there is never enough wealth and power. Which side are you on?
@St-Sinner you've already tried controlled capitalism your way. It failed. Time to try it the progressive way. FDR did it, to the extent possible then. He was so popular they had to make sure the 2 term rule would always be enforced. Trump might try to throw that out, with a few rigged elections from his rich friends.
@ToolGuy Your opinion seems to show an extreme bias against the rich and is not grounded in reality. What you want is a punishment for being rich which will not happen because we are not a socialist country. America did not get to be the most powerful, advanced and rich nation with best amenities on the face of the Earth by being socialist. You have to look to Cuba for your dream come true.
@ToolGuy
What you wrote is although fair and good ideas, that is mostly wishful thinking, not pragmatic. There are wonderful ideas but most have not broken out of books. I am for all sensible controls without keeping foot on anybody's throat or giving entitlements. Yours are far less pragmatic than what I am wishing:
These are just government and democracy reforms. I have not talked about gun control etc. yet
Abolish Citizens vs United is a also a great idea but I know that not even 4 will get done in the my and the next generations' life time. I also want heavy monitoring to prevent financial excesses by the rich and powerful.
@ToolGuy
I do not believe anything Bernie Sanders says. This man is not a democrat, knows himself that nothing he says can be accomplished, has not explained how the heck he plans to get all he says done without strong majorities the Senate and House, has not explained yet why the important infrastructure bill has not passed the Congress for 11 years, what have been his accomplishments on healthcare in his 45 years in Congress and most importantly why is he not running as an independent instead of stealing a platform that is not his?
He is good at hype, not at actions. He is a snake oil salesman. He is a hero of extreme left wingers, not mine.
Hey Sinner, you already believe in taking money from the rich and distributing it. As long as it is distributed for -
The military
Corporate bailouts
Subsidies and other rich dude lurks and perks
Security Services and their questionable operations
Other expenditure to the benefit of US Ruling Elite and its class structure.
... then you are ok with it, although most of this funding actually comes from working people.
What you are against is spending on
Health
Welfare
Education
The environment
.. and anything of direct benefit to working people, who actually create the wealth in the first place.
So, it's not taking money from the rich you oppose, presumably, but taking it to spend on things the rich don't care about.
Classic right wing hypocritical thinking.
@David1955
We are all hypocrites but just don't know it or deny it. All progressives yelling for rights of illegal immigrants will never open their doors for one, nor would give personal time to help or nor ever stand up against a clear discrimination against an immigrant colleague at work. We say one thing but do another. It exists on both sides. No one can say... Holier than Thou
I see this as another issue with many sides. My sister was once living on the street and has moved in with a brother. She has little money but didn't really care about her situation. I have known and know people who are poor and it is often a choice they have made consciously or unconsciously. It is not B & W and often very complicated.
Poor is a choice? For some but not for everyone
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