Agreed.
Roundup put down in small weedy areas with borders of wood and cardboard isolating them.
Done during early morning with zero wind.
Preen then applied to same areas in the afternoon allowing the Roundup to completely dry first.
Weed Begone used on some thistles growing in the grass. Applied to each weed individually with a sprayer focused very tightly. Good way to walk the entire yard and see what's going on.
Tordon! Everyone's favorite!!! Applied to half a dozen trumpet vine "starts" and a few young honeysuckles along the fence line. Methodology: clip the plant off at ground level, leaving a 1/2 inch or so "stump". Then, carefully apply Tordon to the fresh cut using a small, craft paint brush. Avoid dripping Tordon on the soil or surrounding foliage.
Carefully wash up after removing clothing..... dress in shorts and t-shirt, pour a large glass of vino....
Relax.

REALLY!!!!! Its 2018 and you are still using that poison.And proud of it? Please tell us you were joking.You are aiding in the deaths of so many things.Show some compassion or intelligence.Please

@kenriley I use all chemicals very sparingly but, to get a viable crop sometimes a little modern chemistry helps. I don't use any in my yard though.

@kenriley Agricultural chemicals should never be put into the hands of home owners in my opinion. I spend 100's of hours reading information on the chemicals I am planning to use. I examine the toxicity reports in the context of where, how, and what I am going to use them on. I use full protective gear and chem-safe procedure in handling them. When I read that a homeowner is using Tordon I shudder in fear as it has been banned here for many years.

@kenriley Just want to help him live longer. Our government should protect us from this murderous shit, but they don’t. I’m horrified that our government is completely unresponsive to us about this.

@kenriley
There is a time and a place for RoundUp, and a way to use it. In some cases, like in buckthorn eradication, cut and paint is the only recourse, but none of this broadcast shot is condonable.

@kenriley you really need an electrolyte solution if you're gonna try and stay out there. it replaces what you are losing and helps you cope as long as you take frequent breaks also. that's how gatorade got started years ago

@kenriley i make my own and can go all day and feel good afterwards (other than being old and my bones hurting). if i tell you i have to put a disclaimer on it so i won't get in trouble with the law if you use it

@kenriley you don't need much. start with a quart a water, squeeze in two or more lemons, add a couple tablespoons of sugar to taste, around six i'd say and then add a good pinch of salt. mix thoroughly and you're ready to rock and roll. all one needs is water, citrus, sugar and salt
you can last all day on it

@kenriley oh, put it all over a good amount of ice too as the cold will help some. i usually go over board on the ingredients too. it will also taste funny at first as your body won't like the additions of salt to your lemon aide... but then you will crave it

@kenriley remember to also take some breaks, it will help too

No time like now.

@FrayedBear i keep thinking about it but other shit in my life takes over

@blueskies there is only one place for shit - down the sewer.

@FrayedBear funny, you made me laugh as that is really quite true, but i cannot throw my deceased brothers affairs down the sewer no matter how bad i want to.... still laughing. priorities!

@blueskies How about this idea? Visualize how you want your book to flow with a tentative table of contents then occasionally post "an essay" in this group with the idea that it may later serve as the basis or one of the chapters in your book. By doing so, the task may not seem so overwhelming, and in addition, you have lots of volunteer editors and cheerleaders in this group. You will have to make do without a pom-pom squad though ? ? ?

@MikeEC
Outstanding suggestion.