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I never know what or how much is going to come out of me when I start writing to something that has piqued my interest. I wrote the following as a comment to a post in Love and Relationships. It's how I felt and what I needed to express from the prompting question. It's an emotional thing, deep seated. And it's never been satisfied properly over any long term. I think this is so because I have always chosen to be with the wrong woman in the past. I'm looking for the right woman now. And if I never find her, I think I'd prefer to be alone and not go through the frustration again. So, as you read through this, try to imagine if you know of a woman who would be interested in what I'm talking about. I'd like to talk with her and consider working out a way to get together. Probably in stages, using caution... at least until we were both sure and confident. You know?

The question was about whether people have better sexual relations if they form a friendship first. The friendship would provide strong indications that the couple could stay together, at least at the friendship level. But I've had several relationships that started like that but never satisfied me in my deep, emotional zones... they weren't capable of it - they never existed in that zone. It meant nothing to them.

So I answered that it really depends on the people involved. Some people have a sex routine that kicks in as soon as sex starts, like a switch... you might develop a fine relationship at first, but their sex routine still kicks in during sex. Why does relating have to change so much with some people just because you're engaging in sex? All it is is another form of touching, but no... once it starts, we suddenly become orgasm machines. Why is this so necessary?

If orgasm is our primary focus, I can get an orgasm much more efficiently by myself... why must I submit to letting someone "give" it to me and have it take at least twice as long and then she just wants to jump up and go shopping or out to eat as soon as orgasm starts? Alone, I can sustain multiple waves of orgasm... so beautiful... she has no knowledge or concern (just shake it like a beer can and let him spew).

Let me tell you something: I don't miss orgasms - they're just survival, like sleeping and eating. What I miss is the feel and proximity of a woman.That is special and rare... I don't care what other men want - I'm me... I'm telling you what I want - don't stereotype me - listen to what I'm saying, don't tell me what I want. And I'll listen to you.

A soft kiss. Her hands on me... anywhere, everywhere - not just one place. Holding, touching, talking, smiling, laughing, stroking, all over, everywhere - being close and sweet, and still having nice conversation and exchanging gentle affections... sharing physical exploration slowly, calmly, while NOT in a fever pitch for orgasm ASAP.

Slow down... just enjoy being together, close. Nobody's on a sexual mission clock... take your time... stop and enjoy/appreciate the views, talk about it, ask questions, learn things along the way... try new things... slowly. Focus on the nearness.

Done THIS way, your best relationship could start THIS way.

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I have been married for 18 years (second marriage) and the marriage has been sexless for 15. I've hung in there and been faithful because he is a good guy...but I am very sensual and I honestly don't think I can hang in there much longer. I am quite attractive and get a fair amount of attention...I am thinking of giving in. What do you think?

@adaptable1958 OMG (so to speak!) "...while your inner spirit withers from lack of attention..." that is exactly how I feel!

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Why bother having a relationship at all unless you have this understanding and compatibility? You should be able to tell if you’re both compatible by deep talking (friendship and dating) BEFORE getting into a sexual relationship. Otherwise it’s just a game of chance from the start.

Hazydays Level 7 Aug 17, 2019

Often you are friendly and compatible before the commitment...and then somehow it just withers away

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Friendship is very important for me. Having a foundation of connection and trust gives a relationship strength. I can think of nothing better to have with a partner. Without that, even intimacy can be compromised.

bleurowz Level 8 Aug 16, 2019

@adaptable1958 Wow. You don't think much of friendship, do you. You may be surprised to know that there is such a thing as an intimate friendship. I have friends with whom I share emotional intimacy. They are my closest and most trusted confidants where we can share just about anything.

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This is beautiful, exploration without expectations. My experience has been that this comes AFTER the relationship feels more secure. I am not saying it should, it is the order of events in my past and best relationship.

JGal Level 7 Aug 16, 2019
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Was a great relationship wish I could find again

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 16, 2019
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The most amazing lover I've ever had was like this. Together we cherished each other, took our time, touched and kissed with deep emotion. I adored our time together. Unfortunately, circumstances beyond my control took him away from me.

I had longed for a man like this all my life. I was able to love him for a short time and I cherish that. I expect to never meet another in the time I have left. That is how rare this deep emotional gift is in this world.

Wildflower Level 8 Aug 16, 2019
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For me I don't need a great established friendship first. I do need chairs m chemistry for great sex. The better the chemistry-the better the sex. The best sex I had was on the 4th date (using that term lightly) and I didn't know him before hand. I felt very close to him, but that may have been just lust...but we didn't know a lot about each other.

Cabsmom Level 8 Aug 16, 2019

@daylily if they don't turn me on...which is mental and physical...it won't be good.

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I have this with my FWBs... ofc we have quickies when pressed for time (usually on my end) but other times our foreplay is slow and prolonged until we reach orgasm 🙂

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Very thoughtful and well written . Just having sex with someone because they happen to be available at the time , or because , for what ever the circumstances , you or they feel you owe it to them ,is a turn off . May as well not bother . But being with someone you share mutual respect with , enjoy being around , make one another feel special , admired , without using them , makes a very significant difference , in the pleasure given and received .

Cast1es Level 9 Aug 15, 2019

I've had sex just for sex and it was quite enjoyable, but everyone is different. Plus, I would rather have more...but I can still enjoy it

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I’m with a woman very similar to that , but i will keep my eyes and ears open for you.

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