@DangerDave well I mean, way to just cut all the wind from my sail. The Dave I was replying to seemed to be very hyped up and looking to blow off some steam. I don't mind debate or being challenged, so in a way insisting on an outlet for frustration. What do I get in return? Essentially a secular Jew. And the fence sitter thing was a joke, everyone who's being honest and reasonable is at some level agnostic

@DangerDave well I'd definitely agree with you about fakebook it's definitely run amuck with cringe worthy pseudo intellectuals suffering from a delusion induced by what can only be described as an unjustified entitlement. It's quite remarkable to literally watch my "friends list" shrink for mere rational arguments. Ironically, painful as it may be to point out, it seems you've been victim to the exact same hypocricy.

@DangerDave Based you earlier assertions and your answer, you appear to currently posses an inadequate understanding of the scientific process. Simply stating you understand something does not demonstrate your competency in any given topic. Spend the ten minutes and sixteen seconds and watch the video. It will hopefully allow you to broaden your understanding of why we sceptics (you may not be a member of this set), if we care about the truth, need the scientific method. I do not consider or know anybody that considers science as dogma as it a process not "a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true". Granted all the friends I value understand and employ the scientific method to evaluate their world and make decisions accordingly. (Simply put, we use testable facts, not blind assertions to make decisions. As we understand the scientific method we all find the concept of faith (belief without evidence) a lesser methodology to finding the truth the actually employing testable(demonstrable) facts. I'll grant you, all the friends I value are, like myself, atheists as we have all read the bible, questioned the assertions, noted the contradictions within the bible and between the bible and the natural (real) world we live in, and found insufficient evidence to accept the supernatural god assertion.

@DangerDave

I know you just want me to "Go Away" (afraid of my response?) but you did ask so I'll answer

Based on your introductory questions you appear to be having difficulty understanding my long drawn-out examples. Maybe you will be able to understand if I keep my answers simple. I'll address each of your points with double spaces so you can keep track of where you are:

No, I am not "presenting scientific method as infallible and applicable to all situations." At no time did I imply perfection or infallibility in the scientific method. The video also addressed this issue.
I did note it is the best method we have. This does not imply infallibility.

No, at no time did I imply "suggesting you have used it to unravel ALL the mysteries of the universe, in essence knowing everything?" As an Atheist, I actively teach (Yes, I am a teacher including science) that the answer (in life and science) "We don't know." is perfectly acceptable and significantly better then asserting an untested or not testable idea as having equal merit. As this point was also noted in the video, I am guessing you are unwilling or afraid to learn from an Atheist (potholer54) who is also renowned journalist (retired professional) or you are too arrogant to actually watch the video as you have decided your world view is perfect and can not be enhanced (or challenged.) If you did watch the video, I'm not sure how you could have missed those points.

Are you going to be upset when I tell you I'm not interested in what you believe either way?
LAUGH OUT LOUD! Based on your post, I really don't care what you believe as you seem to be set in your (not supported by reality) ways. When interacting with a person that appears to have difficulties with discerning the value of facts and reason over not testable assertions, I talk, or in this case type, so others can listen or read - - I've de-converted a few theists from the darkness of faith who stood in the sidelines during such discussions into the light of atheism. If you actually open your mind and learn to value testable facts over things that can not be demonstrated, all the better for you but in your case, I'm not holding my breath.

Is it important that you believe as I do, No. You are free to believe whatever you wish. Many people are happy and live their lives deluded (not saying you are) I value intelligent, rational people and you have not demonstrated a level of those trates that I value so I really don't care what you belive; that you appear to not value truth (things that can be demonstrated) above ideas that are not supported by facts

You are correct, I did no know you had scientific method in 3rd grade and you took thee lower level science courses. I would have never guessed you had any college level science classes. Most of my friends I value have their doctorates (or Master's degrees) in the sciences) Physics, Geology, etc.

"Understanding it is simple . . ." So what is your point?

"What you clearly don't understand is we agnostics do not make such sweeping, unfounded judgements of the unknowable" At no time was I addressing "we agnostics" I was and am addressing you. You are by no stretch of the imagination representative of the overwhelming majority of people on this site. You are the one attempting to degrade the scientific process. This is a vile attempt to muddy the water between truth (things that can be tested) and things that can not be tested or, as you noted "the unknowable" Sorry Charley (old Tuna Fish commercial reference) but things that can be tested and/or demonstrated to be true or false are more reliable then things that can simply be asserted then expected to be believed. Even if you still haven't figured it out, by attempting to demote the value of science, this is your position.

And yes, I proudly wear the Sceptic/Atheist shoe as unlike those who depend on faith (belief without evidence) I am free to question and accept things that can be demonstrated over things others assert without evidence.

@DangerDave I am sorry my efforts to enlighten you offended you.

I can assure you harassment was not my intent. My intent was to educate not humiliate.

I am glad you are a music teacher as, with your art background, you have chosen a wonderful career that allows you to share the visual (as you noted earlier you are also an artist) and auditory beauty of the world. I have a great deal of respect for all artists (music, architectural, performance and graphic art). It is likely you do very well in those worthy aspects of positive and influential creativity.

Also, It is not my intent to impress you because I really don't care what you think about me. I was (originally) in hopes you could understand why we need the scientific method (as it is the reason we are where we are now (corresponding across the internet with computers)) and I was a bit disappointed you evidently failed to read or understand my original argument. I honestly answered each of you questions (which were a bit redundant) as repetition is a strategy to teach a concept.

This correspondence is similar to a long series of debates I had at the College's (where I teach) Cafeteria with a mechanic while enjoying very good food. The mechanic shared your lack of respect for the scientific method and for several weeks we spent hours going back and forth between his baseless assertions (he was a creationist, flat earther, evolution denying, faith based believing individual) and my "science based, testable and demonstrable facts did not agree with his non-scientific (not demonstrable or testable or tested and demonstrated to be wrong) beliefs. One day I had enough of his nonsense and compiled a page of links detailing the argument they were addressing and demonstrating his assertions were not only baseless but were demonstrably wrong. The list included heavy guns such as the youtube channel ColdHardLogic and many others that addressed specific points (including the link you did not watch). He assured me he would watch the videos so we could discuss the merit of his assertions the next day. That was the last time I saw him as he has not returned to the cafeteria in over eight months.

Your last sentence is completely nonsensical. What were you trying to say?

We recently made a change to notifications that will show replies to your comments even if the author of the original post deleted it. 98% of the time it's the author who deleted the post or his or her profile.

Dave took my comments out of context. I was referring to his posts of nudity. @irascible

I looked at the database and see that you have 27 posts (2 were deleted by you and appear to be edits of another post, 25 are live).

@Admin maybe I messed up? Pardon please!

@DangerDave we do have a choice on what we want to be envolved with here...so I am fine. I do not feel it right for me to make choices for others.

Well, that explains what we were talking about the other day, doesn't it?

@KKGator & @orange_girl when I rcvd the notice of reply to my post form KKGator it sent me to her profile page & at the top it had this original post under "content deleted". I have no idea what's going on here! I wrote to Admin stating my concerns over censorship & asked that all of us get clarification. I don't wish to leave, but if this site gets "religious" I will be sorely disappointed!

@orange_girl Also on your reply, instead of being sent here I was sent to your profile & at the top saw "deleted post". What is going on!!! Can we not even have opinions??? Is there a heresy or blasphemy rule in force on an agnostic/atheist site?

@orange_girl @KKGator @phxbillcee We recently (2-3 days ago) made a change to notifications that will show replies to your comments even if the author of the original post deleted it. 98% of the time it's the author who deleted the post or his or her profile. If you ever get a notification that says "content deleted", send me a message and I'll investigate. We put the "content deleted" message as we didn't have time to write the code to show the part of the message when the user deleted the post (or account). I THINK it's all updated now but there could be a few special cases.

@Admin It appears that I got one of those "content deleted" alerts for this post.

@bingst reload. @irascible sent me a screen shot which helped me debug and hopefully fix a "content deleted" bug. It was related to this post being in groups which go live before the notifications are "aware" of it so they say "content deleted".

Sorry, bub. I agree with DangerDave. Agnostics, Humanists & Atheists are supposed to have a bit broader viewpoint & a less rigid mindset. This heats me up, my jets won't be cool in the face of censorship & I won't support it. Admin, you surely better figure out what you guys want this site to be & how you want to police it. then be prepared for an exodus, & a real one this time!

I've received at least one crude sexual comment, been jumped on by alt-right "atheist" gun lovers, etc., so I plan to block people as needed. I come here to escape all that.

I agree! If this site gets "religious" in its viewpoint & to toeing the line, I'll fly. I participate in a number of groups & even more threads & posts, saying that is just stating that I am a contributing member. Tho I know this place can do without me, the obverse is also true. Tread carefully Admin, this is a very slippery slope!

@DangerDave Trolls aren't all bad. They made a whole movie about them, and they were so cute!!!

@birdingnut Ya gotta do what ya gotta do!