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Which would you prefer. A singing parakeet or an off key member of the family who loves to sing?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 25, 2018:
huh uh ... they're YOUR family. you dont get to pick and choose. i have cross-dressing sex offenders who enjoy broadway tunes at my thanksgiving table too.
Bob Dorough, whose catchy 'Schoolhouse Rock' tunes taught generations of kids grammar and math, has ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 24, 2018:
It started off as a bump then it turned into a lump it was a jagged lump it was a ragged lump they made him take a big shot in his rump cause his tumor was cancerous (to the tune of unpack your adjectives) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuuZEey_bs
Aww look...Melenia has on her 'Father Sarducci' hat today.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 24, 2018:
She wants you to find the pope in the pizza.
I had an interesting thought about the purpose of religion today. I would love if people would offer...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 24, 2018:
it's an organized way to get like members of a social unit on the same page mentally. it is an expression of our ability to speak and communicate with one another ... the advantage we had over the denasovans and neandertals.
What'cha gonna eat?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 24, 2018:
chinese
Who is your favourite atheist comedian?Jim Jefferies is my favourite comedian who is still is alive....
JeffMesser comments on Apr 23, 2018:
I also dont want to forget Mitch Hedberg. My 2nd favorite all time. And Greg Giraldo.
Who is your favourite atheist comedian?Jim Jefferies is my favourite comedian who is still is alive....
JeffMesser comments on Apr 23, 2018:
most comedians are secular. Carlin is obviously my favorite in the category you query and he's just my favorite comedian overall. After that I also dig Bill Blair and Jeffries and Patton Oswalt and Anthony Jeselnik.
I was born fourth generation Mormon. I served a mission for the church and spent years defending the...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 23, 2018:
did you learn the secret handshake? do you still get your own planet?
Okay. so I am still new to this atheist thing. How long does it take before I will no longer dread ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 22, 2018:
Remember how mad you were about not existing before you were born? exactly.
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JeffMesser comments on Apr 22, 2018:
When will we say "enough!"? uhhhhhh, August?
Buddhism and atheism
JeffMesser comments on Apr 22, 2018:
generally buddhism has no deity. but in Thailand and a couple of other places the buddhists believe in some lesser gods and of course the vedic hindus have a whole assortment of deities.
What do people do that grosses you out? X(
JeffMesser comments on Apr 21, 2018:
Whar do people do that grosses ME out? 1. they eat sweet potatoes. thats just plain nasty. 2. they waste their sundays doing church things 3. the drink alcohol. blech.
WHO'S NAME DO I CALL ON NOW? It suddenly dawned on me that I am stuck with a bit of a conundrum....
JeffMesser comments on Apr 21, 2018:
praise Jebus! In the name of the father, the son, and the holy goat.
WHO'S NAME DO I CALL ON NOW? It suddenly dawned on me that I am stuck with a bit of a conundrum....
JeffMesser comments on Apr 21, 2018:
If you can't even type out "Lord" then you're going to have serious trouble as an agnostic.
Happy 420!
JeffMesser comments on Apr 20, 2018:
too late. already high.
And the last of my favorites for ending the zealot's discussion; “I contend that we are both ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 19, 2018:
yes, this was my favorite back in the day. I'd claim there were approxinately 2,500 major deities in the existence of human worship and while I may be an atheist believing in 0/2,500 ... they were 99.99975% atheist believing in 1/2,500.
What is a good reason to be happy? Would it be harder to find happiness without a reason? I feel...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 19, 2018:
When you name me you limit me. When you define me, you corral me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHORRHXtyI
Why is it okay to wish death on some, but not others? Ex: Wishing Osama bin Laden death...no ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 18, 2018:
Because some people suck
Name THREE things about yourself and one not true. Let me guess which one's not true.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 18, 2018:
1. I saw Michael Jackson in Nice, France on the "Bad" tour. 2. I saw Jethro Tull in Rome 3. I saw Ray Charles in Toulonnes and had dinner with him and his manager. 4. I saw the Violent Femmes in Sydney, Va Beach, Orlando, and OKC (3x) at the Bowery.
Some of the posts here are serious in tone and beg a serious response. Some, on the other hand, ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 18, 2018:
Always go for the laugh
What is your favorite paradox?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 17, 2018:
Dr. Phil and Dr. Strange
Why are you a loner?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 17, 2018:
Because my mother was a stressed-out, messed up teenager when she had me and she had neither help nor any clue what she was doing. As a result we didnt develop the bond of security that a mother/infant should establish and I have trust issues as a result. extreme trust issues. That is why.
Has there been a song stuck in your head this week that you can't seem to shake? Share it. Videos ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 17, 2018:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c2OfAzDTI
What is your favorite cocktail? If it's obscure, please share the recipe!
JeffMesser comments on Apr 17, 2018:
Mine is 12". Oh, nvm, thats a cock tale.
Atheism isn’t a culture as any atheist can tell you. Could a culture be developed based on ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 15, 2018:
SE asia has had secular cultures for several thousand years.
What song gets you in a good mood?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 14, 2018:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHozn0YXAeE
Sitting between two families at kid's soccer game. All they have talked about the entire time is ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 14, 2018:
Teaching your kids to worship as you do is indoctrination and it's WRONG.
Your dream career if money wasn't an issue.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 14, 2018:
Field biologist studying crows and other corvids
Earth - better off when humans go extinct?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 13, 2018:
Let me explain the race as it stands ... it is man's ability to homogenize vs. man's tendency to do destructive things to those who are different.
What's your favorite charity? I'm a regular contributor to Kiva.org They do micro loans to the ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 13, 2018:
When I have something to give I give it to Unwed Mothers ... to help them get their start,
It's never too late for ________ (fill in the blank).
JeffMesser comments on Apr 13, 2018:
The Spanish Inquisition.
Whats your dream date‚Ä®?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 12, 2018:
There's a taco truck on sw 44th and May in OKC that makes the greatest burrito you'll ever eat in your life. My dream date would know about that place and we'd go there. Then she'd know some place that makes excellent chocolate cake since all these places I know suck. And then we'd go to Jellyfish Lake in Palau and swim. While high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA6Y9uSE5zc
Island-hopping study shows the most likely route the first people took to Australia
JeffMesser comments on Apr 12, 2018:
Follow the genetics of the denasovans
Just finished reading "The Virtue of Selfishness" by Ayn Rand. I really enjoyed this book. Has ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 11, 2018:
I prefer that everything that evil little hag wrote be burned and her memory be banished from existence. so let it be done.
Do you collect anything?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 11, 2018:
Dust
What are your thoughts on online dating?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 11, 2018:
The thought of online dating scares me. I don't know where I am supposed to place my penis.
Whats everyone's favourite animal and what pets do you keep or would like to keep?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 11, 2018:
I love skunks. They are amazing little animals.
What is your earliest memory of a film (or scene) that really, really scared you. Mine was an old ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 10, 2018:
I remember the legend of boggy creek. that movie scared the piss out of me. I think I was 8 or 9 when I saw it. MY memory is of the bathroom scene.
To vape or not to vape? What is your personal opinion in vaping?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 9, 2018:
It's excellent. I prefer dabbing but it doesn't get me as high as vaping some decent weed. This Davinci IQ is an amazing little machine.
What does karma really mean?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 9, 2018:
Wrong. all wrong. Karma is the momentum built by all the other actions taken that go in a specific way and tend to make following actions go in a similar direction. It is NOT some sort of retributive justice as some seem to imagine.
Who's been the best President of the United States in your lifetime?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 9, 2018:
I would say Clinton except he is a dirty draft dodger.
What is the one creature, snake, spider, rodent, bat, etc, that creeps you out the most?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 9, 2018:
Republicans
Is Buddhism a religion?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 8, 2018:
No. it's not a religion. It's a discipline.
Tell me something about your town/village/area. I am from the UK, I have visited the USA once and I ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 8, 2018:
I live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. This city itself has like 700,000 peeps and if you include suburbs the OKC metro area has like 1.1 million people. Think of a place that has nothing going on. Neither flora nor fauna. No entertainment. Nothing to do. Now add 1 million people. Thats OKC.
What is your favorite place to eat that is not fast food?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 8, 2018:
Any one of numerous little diners/dives around Oklahoma that has perfected their own technique for making the best chicken fried steak with pan cream gravy, smashed taters, and a roll or three. It annoys me how so many places neglect the roll.
My $10 Logitech wireless mouse SUCKS! I just bought a better wireless mouse on Amazon for $24.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 6, 2018:
I have been using this mouse since the early 90's. Apparently I wasn't the only one who became addicted to them as Logitech still makes them.
So...I’ve been dating a Christian woman. She is perfectly aware of my stance on the supernatural ...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 5, 2018:
does she put out?
Do you love to hike?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 4, 2018:
I like to hike up my leg.
What is better than sex?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 4, 2018:
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
What's a phrase you vehemently despise?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 3, 2018:
"have a blessed day".
How do you guys rest/relax your brain when tired?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 3, 2018:
tibetan humming bowl tone while watching computer fractals.
What's the best bit of advice you've ever been given?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 2, 2018:
"If your beliefs exclude anyone ... you need better beliefs."
How do you feel about the person you're dating talking about their ex?
JeffMesser comments on Apr 1, 2018:
well as long as I am the one getting the sex it's ok. I'd rather we talk about him and she bangs me than talk about me and she bangs him.
Does anyone else on this site seriously think about, or actually does, live full-time in a RV, ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 31, 2018:
I would do it in a heartbeat. Ive thought about converting one of those mini-buses.
What weird food combinations do you enjoy?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 30, 2018:
well let's see ... at this very moment I am eating KFC cole slaw with 4 arby's horsey sauce packets and a crumbled up KFC biscuit inside. It's one of my favorites.
Do you celebrate "Easter"? If so how, if not do you recognize this day in any other way? Me: I ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 30, 2018:
btw - churchies HATE it when you call them pagans for celebrating easter. It is a pagan fertility celebration that was hijacked when Constantine defeated the Romans. Thats why there is a rabbit and eggs ...then they said "and dedicate it somehow to christianity".
Do you celebrate "Easter"? If so how, if not do you recognize this day in any other way? Me: I ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 30, 2018:
I eat rabbit stew and chocolate pie.
Parents out there.What do your children identify as with religion or anti-religion? Just curious. My...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 29, 2018:
I am a horrible father. All 4 of mine are southern baptists who attend church regularly. I am the only Buddhist.
Purpose
JeffMesser comments on Mar 28, 2018:
I believe our actual purpose is to keep mankind pointed in the right direction as we steer through this twisty path of diversity towards the inevitable homogenization. Once there we can start to develop collective consciousness and evolve. In the grand scheme their silly beliefs mean little. But in the minute details they cause a rather bumpy ride. Sometimes that ride outweighs the good it allows for in terms of social conduct. Sometimes it doesn't. It's up to them. But don't push the fish.
I find myself using the expression, “Thank God!” in a pretty regular manner. I have tried to say...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 28, 2018:
it's a phase. It passes.
What's the biggest benefit to dating you?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 28, 2018:
social status
If you were a trip advisor for where you live, what would you highlight as the best attractions in ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 28, 2018:
What OKC needs is a place where people can hang out, get high, and play dominos. This place should also have a nacho bar. Make it so number 1.
Change of pace request! What is your most favorite childhood memory??? Or one of your favorties?? ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 28, 2018:
I remember living in some apartments in Odessa Tx back in like 72 or 73. I had one of those Evel Knievel stunt bikes that you rev up and let go. We'd climb on top of the roof and launch the bike off the roof via a ramp ... and had made parachutes for Knievel's action figure to glide down safely. It was a great time to be a kid.
Do you think it's easier for women to come out as bisexual?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 27, 2018:
it's certainly more interesting.
What it something that is oddly satisfying to you?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 27, 2018:
you get one of those artery destroying fish planks at LJS and pick up some steamed white rice from whatever chinese food place is open. take it home and fashion one bed of rice for one fish plank. Pour a dose of malt vinegar on it and enjoy. it's most delicious this way.
Do you talk to yourself?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 26, 2018:
yes. all secular types do.
Are you attracted to people who are just comfortable being themselves from the start?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 26, 2018:
dont think. just be.
Aphantasia. Anyone else here have aphantasia? Or alternatively hyperphantasia? Aphantasia is the ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 25, 2018:
I was gonna ask if there's an opposite to it because my head makes everything into movies or graphs.
What do you say?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 25, 2018:
some ignorant humans thought a sneeze was the soul leaving the body and it supposedly couldnt return unless the body was first cleansed with a blessing. i usually say bless you and offer that story
Have you ever had a frenemy?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 25, 2018:
I had one in junior high in Enid. this girl named stacy was my bitter enemy drawing my ire all the time on the bus and at school. then one day she gave me a card and tried to kiss me! I had all the emotional maturity of an infant so I screwedd that good deal all up. She was a stunning beauty too.
What is the most painful thing you’ve endured? Me: Emergency appendectomy - my life was a ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 24, 2018:
bowel obstruction with necrotic intestinal tissue that had to be resectioned. it hurt so bad I was guiding the gastric nasal tube down my throat myself to get relief.
God hates porn?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 24, 2018:
Really? because adult male otters will steal baby harbour seal pups and rape them until they die.
How to explain what an atheist is to children?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 23, 2018:
Bring it up now and you'll be the monster. Bring it up in their teens amd you'll be the cool aunt.
I was 12 the day I stopped believing. I was 15 when I told my parents. I was 19 when I was forced...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 23, 2018:
you will read the vedas.
Kick start...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 21, 2018:
I watch a puppy video on youtube.
Good morning!
JeffMesser comments on Mar 21, 2018:
this is where I find happiness.
Hi Everyone. I have just joined this group and I am not sure it is the right place for me. I seems...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 20, 2018:
I am baroque most of the month and the music that being poor makes me listen to is the blues. when I get some money I listen to pink floyd and queen and talking heads.
Diversity training let the controversy begin
JeffMesser comments on Mar 20, 2018:
the only thing that will ever actually cure our diversity ills will be homogenization. being suspect of things that are different is the very nature of our mind. we will never completely educate our way over that hump. the trick is to not destroy ourselves before that happens. Truth is I suspect at some point our population will dwindle to a much smaller size and many of these diversity issues and such will disappear for more pressing concerns.
Make Believe
JeffMesser comments on Mar 20, 2018:
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This is the single most important question
JeffMesser comments on Mar 20, 2018:
Sigma nu
Do we ever really, "settle down"?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 20, 2018:
I have.
I don't think I've ever made a post before. I have responded to a bunch. One think I do is write ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 19, 2018:
Post something really personal and it will help you loosen up. Here, I will go first ... I suffer from a narrow urethra and my son Bobby is a bit of an embarrassment.
I had the most mind blowing lucid dream last night. Only the second in my life. I woke up so happy ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 19, 2018:
Most of my dreams that I remember are flying dreams. I have those quite a bit I guess. The coolest thing about my flying dreams is I just know how. I mean when I wake up I still do and it takes me a bit to remember that I can't. It's like reading Seagull.
Why did your marriage fail?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 17, 2018:
Because I didnt know what was required.
What kind of post do you like to see most on this site?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 17, 2018:
I like the ones where people try to define the universe.
Early Humans Slept Around with More than Just Neanderthals
JeffMesser comments on Mar 17, 2018:
I find this research to be absolutely fascinating. I believe the differences that gave us the edge over both denisovan and neandertal (the ability to articulate) also led to our hyperjump in mental evolution and an encephalization rate of over 7.5%. Being able to relate our knowledge and carry it forward to later generations made us into modern human beings. It allowed us to change from hunter-gatherers to farmers, settle into societies, and adjust to our enviorment instead of moving with the seasons.
In my opinion, the only reason that people fear death is the religious hellfire and damnation myth....
JeffMesser comments on Mar 16, 2018:
I have spoken to so many of them who are truly terrified. Usually I ask them "Remember how bored you were before you were born?" and then I see if they catch on.
Buddhism Don't know if this should be in a different category, but I don't think it matters. ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 16, 2018:
I ran the gamut from Southern Baptist to agnostic to atheist to anti-theist to Buddhist to Vedic sage. What I learned is if you label me then you minimize me. I no longer have any need for supreme beings to give me assurance. The balance of the universe is my security. It's necessary in this context to offer a warning aout the knee-jerk immediate refusal to acknowledge anything that seems to be a god or deity. Often the being one might call a god or a deity is no more than the personification of a concept. This was a necessity for telling stories to carry the religious ceremonies from northern and western europe to the Indus valley by the aryans. Instead of saying "Jaeed crossed the great river and ate some fruit to quell his hunger" the story-teller would say "Jaeed snuck past the sleeping river and slayed the dragon Ungar - who would still arise the next evening". This is where most of the "gods" of the vedas come from. It was a necessity to embellish stories as memory aids until sanskrit was developed to document the same. Thats not the case in every instance ... but it is for many.
When did you realize you were old? Me: When I would rather stay in on the weekends than going ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 16, 2018:
I woke up with a sleep injury. HOW do you injure yourself sleeping???
Dog or cat?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 16, 2018:
Doggy
Atheism and psychedelics
JeffMesser comments on Mar 16, 2018:
First of all shrooms are the safest of all drugs of nature. Safer than marijuana even. And I have most certainly heard that their use is beneficial for many reasons mentally. My experience with them was brief and nondescript - but also in the 80's. So I plan on retracing that route soon.
I have learned that rejection is just another lesson in life. I never doubt myself. How have you ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 15, 2018:
The Buddha taught that while we wish to be rid of suffering, that suffering also guides and motivates us. The way to truly be rid of it is to seek being rid of all attachment.
I am somewhere left of Marx and Leinien in my politics. That being said, I am happy to govern from ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 15, 2018:
I believe in socialism but not scientific socialism. I am very tired of socialism being used as a bad word when we use socialist policies in this country daily and have for hundreds of years.
This last weekend I went back home to bury a very close family friend. She died because of drugs. It...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
Meh. funerals are for the people who are still here. if it's YOU who needs to speak out about what your friend meant to you then I'd suggest a group or a donation to charity or an editorial letter. Let her grieving family find whatever comfort they may in the religion of their choosing. thats the best karma anyway man.
A Bunch of Religious People Think Stephen Hawking Is Currently Burning in Hell – Friendly Atheist
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
The ability to move beyond this infantile need for the security of a "god" figure is part of the hurdle set we must negotiate to evolve. just pity those who cannot do so yet.
Atheists can 'go to hell,' says Sedgwick County commissioner | The Wichita Eagle
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
Meh. since I genuninely don't believe in hell that really doesnt matter much to me. I am past the militancy phase of all this. There's no conflict if you don't care enough to engage.
What do you think of parody or mock religions? Have you or would you join one?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
I did dudeism and fsm. It was just a joke. Would I ever? I am always up to conversing religious fundamentals with others. I think most of them come from the same source anyway - man, not myth. I am up to hearing new notions if any exist. Ive heard some good stuff.
How does having power change a person? Does it corrupt?
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
It corrupts if they want it. those that eschew it are the least likely to abuse it.
A good, short read that this community reminded me of and one that I would share with anyone who ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
There is a biological component to empathy and the golden rule. as such their moral code is in their DNA.
Amen...Do you say it? If not, what do you use instead. It has never been a word I use. I ...
JeffMesser comments on Mar 14, 2018:
If I'm pretending to be a churchie or am telling a joke I will say it. otherwise no way.

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