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The privilege of being born and being alive among a billion other possible personnel who could have been at my place, but in the end nature through its randomness chose me.

There is an aspect of materialistic divinity in this excerpt! In some ways evolution and randomness are divine. Prof. Richard Dawkins portrayed this point rather beautifully in his text!!

pbose 4 June 20
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There is a sense in which being alive at all is winning a sort of lottery. But it's a chance to play a game not of your choosing, and much of it isn't fun. Just consider infants, toddlers and young children separated from their parents and living in US government concentration camps right now. What sort of lottery did they win?

I can further say that I won other lotteries by pretty much pulling the best possible card from the metaphorical Deck of Life: "white, anglo-saxon, protestant heterosexual male born with no appreciable disabilities into a stable, unconditionally loving and ultimately intact upwardly mobile middle class family" is about as good as it gets, no? And yet ... I've endured the "unnatural" death of my mother, oldest brother, 2nd wife and adult son, the harms of fundamentalism and the difficulties of coming out of it, and a bunch of other unwanted drama, and my life does not resemble what I chose / wanted for myself in my youth, even adjusting for my illusions.

So, sure, I do my best to focus on the positives and let go of the negatives, and it's good for these things to be pointed out. And yet we must always strive to relieve suffering and improve the human condition. Going on about our privilege or the first world nature of many of our problems doesn't make them not problems. It puts them in a certain perspective, but pain is pain. We only know what we know and that is all we have to compare our lives to. Human suffering is, at bottom, impoverishment of freedom of choice, not what we are theoretically born to but what we can actually realize.

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This is a fine piece by Prof Dawkins, but the irony is that the concept which he refers to pre-dates him by 2,500 years. Please see the Buddhist parable Chiggala Sutta: The Turtle and the Golden Yoke or sometimes known as The Hole [vipassana.com] which comments on the rarity of a human life

Ancient eastern philosophies did ponder on the uncertain aspect of nature a lot. The uncertainty is exemplied using ambigious riddles. You can definitely draw analogies. I recommend the book the Tao of Physics id you are interested. But those scholars didn't have the tools we possess now: mathematics and the scientific process. That's why their ideas were limited to philosophies, while the ones from the newer generations are proven facts. I am not belittling their contribution, but saying that we have came a long way in understanding nature beyond ambiguous phrases.

@pbose thanks for your thoughts on that. What is being suggested here is that Prof Dawkins is re-iterating the concept of the text without referencing it. I am sure that he is informed sufficiently to know of the text. I appreciate and acknowledge his work but here he tacitly seems to be claiming the concept for his own, This is certainly not in the spirit of collaborative academia. Love The Tao of Physics by the way. I read it in parallel with In Search of Schroedingers Cat in the 80's

@Geoffrey51 :
Hi Geoffrey,

The only contribution of Richard Dawkins is the last sentence where he presents his opinion. The rest is established facts about evolution which is widely known in the scientific community. He cites Darwin's work a lot in his books. However I don't see the need to cite ancient philosophies.

Same argument can be made about the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics. Heisenberg, Bohr and Schroedinger came up with with the concepts independently and sure there may be some basic analogies but that doesn't mean their work was influenced by these principles. They just coincidentally happened to be naively similar. Though Heisenberg did point out of the basic similarities later in his life, where he came across these philosophies

@pbose a joke bout Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. Heisenberg gets pulled over for speeding on the highway and the cop says "do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replies "I have absolutely no idea but I know exactly where I am!"

@Geoffrey51 i have heard that one before. Haha

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Something to think about!

pbose Level 4 June 20, 2018
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