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Why can't a man have a friendship with a women like he does with another man? My best friend and I, we are both straight men, spend time together at each other's home, go out to eat together, go nightclubing together, travel together, camp together, enjoy each other company. I would enjoy having a female friend to enjoy those things with.

jlynn37 8 June 26
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I am not sure I understand why you want a female friend particularly for the things you list. Does the friend being female make it better or different? Is the difference because of gender and not because of different personalities?
Personally, my closest friends are all male (I am male). I have female friends, but not very close! Often I get attracted to them and know that they are unavailable and so I maintain a distance. If I don't get attracted to them, there is probably not enough between us to maintain a close friendship. I think that is how it works for me, but I might be wrong.

As stated elsewhere, I prefer females to males for anything and everything.

@Petunias maybe my english is not good and there is perhaps a misunderstanding here. For me attraction does not mean it is physical only or biological as you put it. I am attracted to a person, not a body. So, I would be attracted to someone who has similar values and interests as I do and I think these are also what makes close friends. As you rightly point out personality can outweigh physical attraction and I have crushed on few friends because of who they are rather than how they look. As I said they are unavailable and I don't want to get too involved. I don't know whether that clarifies it, but I think the confusion is due to assuming attraction is always physical.
A good follow up question would be - suppose I meet someone who has same values, interests etc. Am I capable of being close friends with them without being romantically attracted to them? I don't know.

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My Fair Lady has a great song about this...sung by the professor. It does happen but it takes...wisdom?

@OlderMusicGeek YES! That's the one. Isn't that the OP's complaint? lol

@OlderMusicGeek hahaha OP would be jlynn37...original poster. You didn't sound as if you were complaining...

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I think if you would have a female friend, one of you will think about a relationship

You are right and that is why I posed the question. Why.

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Wives and girlfriends don't like it. I have gotten to the point that I won't be seen alone with men that are in relationships (is this how Pence feels?!!) because I have had their ladies assume I had designs on them. No way, no how. I've also had male friends assume that I wanted to have more than friendship and move on me. Damn it, men!

@gatekeeper63 That is a good point and unfortunately too often accurate

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Every male friend I've had always wanted more than friendship.. It just seems to be one of those things.

And Gatekeeper is right. If the man is attached to a woman it usually gets ugly fast.

@LetzGetReal , I was only speaking of my own experience. Maybe I was just bad at reading the people involved. But the men I refer to, in my experience, wanted more than my friendship. And their female counterparts, if they had one, seemed to think I was of the same mind. I was not.

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I would like the same, but I have found at least in my age groups straight guys don't want to be your friend for just pal around stuff if they don't want to shag you.

@seaspot, you said a lot when you brought up age. Younger people probably have a more difficult time being friends with the opposite sex. The biological urge to procreate drives us all when we are younger.

@freeofgod Thank you for saying I am in a younger age group. LOL. I don't feel that way! but most men my age who are attached aren't going to be palling around with an unattached female without the wife along, and seriously, the unattached guys aren't interested unless they are interested. It is most unfortunate in my view. This is why middle-aged women tend to like to have some gay male friends. I would love a fishing buddy or someone to just do some nature stuff with, no strings and no expectations beyond friendship, but I am not sure that's realistic.

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One of my best friends is a woman. We go out to dinner, go to concerts, etc. No problem.

I know it can be done and is done so often, but it is not the norm in my opinion. I have also been there several times but it has gotten more difficult as I have gotten older.

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I thank everyone for their input to my question.

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I don’t see why you can’t. I have male friends and we do the same things you mentioned without incident.

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I think the issue from men .. they give bad idea about themselves.

Areej Level 2 June 26, 2018
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My best friend of a little over a decade was inserprabe to me, and we of him. We had some diferent of opinion on some some subgests, be always we didn't have a problem with the differences of what might be. we valudude what we had in common rather than argeuing over some trivial bullshit. He died a few years ago and Couldn't find another that could fill his shoes.

Iv'e made some rather great friends over the last few years, and I am greatful for those that I have met. but I still hasve judgedment on others that I meet because I still compair them to my old best friend.

I know I need to let go and get on with my life,.. But its hard sometimes. real honestly and the bonding really is hard to fill those shoes.

@TristanNuvo I can relate 😟 My best friend died almost 16 years ago and can never be replaced.

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My best friend is a woman. We kissed once, and it was weird! We agreed to let it go & be who we are. I'm kind of metro & she's kind of a dyke, though we're both def straight. I'd kill for her & she'd do the same for me. Best friendship is like a blank check nobody ever wants to cash.

NerdyB Level 4 June 26, 2018

Love that last line. Quite the exceptional friendship there.
I've had one-ish , but we had a pact that we would marry each other when older if we found ourselves simultaneously single...unfortunately we'll never be able to fulfill that , what with his having died.

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I have not spent any considerable time with anyone over the last 5 years. I can say that having a woman friend just to rationalize some things would be a welcomed normalcy.

azzow2 Level 9 June 26, 2018

I can relate very much to that.

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It definitely is a slippery slope. I struggled with this in one of my current, closest friendships. What helped was that she already has a boyfriend and that he's actually happy we hang out (long distance relationship dynamic).

In the very beginning, there definitely was an attraction on my part. It ended up being one of the greatest personal growths I've ever had. It forced me to really dig deep about my feelings (I've never told her about them). If anything, the way I see it, I worked hard to convert the attraction I felt into a different, much more platonic kind of love; through it all, I learned there are different kinds of love, and that it is possible (though tricky at first) to just be friends. All in all, as mentioned before, be honest with her, and most importantly yourself through it all.

Hope my half ramble helped a bit

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It’s not so much an issue, I just don’t think it’s all to common. I typically see it as men like to spend time with people they have the most in common with and can identify with, other men. While it’s not impossible for women to be included in that, I think men just enjoy the company of someone who isn’t so opposite of them.

Adam7 Level 4 June 27, 2018
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I had occasion to count up my personal friends yesterday and of the 6 that knock on my door regularly, 4 were women. One is an ex and the rest are platonic. Not saying that I would not if they asked (ex excluded) but no means no and till they change their minds thats how it will stay. This is not an ulterior motive just that if I find a woman attractive, I will tell her so. Its up to her where she takes that.
The most important thing in this is, I enjoy the company of women period. I like to talk and listen to them. They speak so differently than us guys. It is almost like another language. Mens conversation is so easy. Its upfront, out in plain sight, sport, politics etc. Women are much more subtle and personal. It adds another dimension to any subject, which I personally find fascinating.
Bottom line is, if you want women friends, you have to like them for who they are.

Agreed entirely.

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I have women friends. In fact, I am more comfortable around women. I find my male friends to be self absorbed. Always talk about their problems. Not as considerate of others. Never got the male bonding thing of going to bars or playing cards.

jab60 Level 6 June 27, 2018

^^^^^ I resemble these remarks.

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I have a few too few of such female friends. It makes appreciation of them so much greater knowing how rare they are. One in particular is a best friend relationship as close as it gets without sexual intimacy.

We once had it as well but mutually recognized some differences in living and outlook that weren't a 'fit' at that level.

We are afflicted by religiously and patriarchally based social canon and erroneous notions that prevent both formation and salvation of close heterosexual, platonic friendships.

Barriers can be overcome with honest examination and refusing to allow others who are not part of the friendship to interfere. It's no easy task for those who've already succombed to being 'saddled' and branded.

Agreed.

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I can dig it! Always wanted to be treated like one of the guys.

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I think you can but you have to be very upfront about it right to the point of either saying yes or no to "friends with benefits" I have quite a few male friends and we are just friends

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Men and women can be friends. Believe it or not, not every woman out there is out for a relationship. I'd love to meet a guy to just pal around with.

Cinjar Level 5 June 26, 2018
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I have had a few male friends, have one now but I know if I said lets take it further he would. But we have a good friendship.

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I think they can. In fact I think a lot of women would welcome it. However you must mean it, on both sides

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I think it is only natural for men and women to find some ‘more than friends’ attraction to each other. Obviously sometimes it’s felt more by one than the other. But yes. It’s important to communicate early and as often as required to ensure one is not misenturputing something from the other if one is not interested if becoming more intimate.

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Good question. The parties involved have to make the relationship clear from the beginning and admit if there are any attractions other than platonic.

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