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KateZilla 7 July 6
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Wow...another sexist meme about how men are dirt...never see that on this site.

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The character "Elaine" from the sitcom "Seinfeld" said it perfectly:
"A woman is an Object-de-Art, to be admired for her grace and beauty. A man is like a Jeep. Built for efficency."

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It's funny to see how many people mention not being brought up to view women as objects, since there are so many factors in that, most of them not overt.
It's not someone saying men own their wives, usually (although there are some who still say that). It's the movies in which the woman is the man's to be won. It's the stories of rescuing the princess. It's the men's magazines featuring the hottest women and the women's magazines with tips for being hotter. It's the backlash against prominent females in Star Wars and other properties. It's the expectation that men pay for dates. It's the advice columns telling women to be pursued by men, rather than pursue them.
Our culture, despite getting past women being valued only as housewives, still has much progress to make. To pretend it does not is a disservice to women and men alike.

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I think the physical attraction goes both ways, along with other attributes that one values, so I don't entirely agree; but as to the treatment of women as objects in what is still a patriarchal society, that is still largely true.

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So who taught female birds to see male birds as objects? In most species, one sex will be the chooser while the other tries to attract them, usually with visuals or pheromones. In apes (us), and most mammals, the male chooses, the females indicate they're ready in some cases by showcasing their genital area by pumping blood to it causing it to redden which is where lipstick came from (apparently, I read/watched it somewhere).

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While I am attracted to the physical appearance of a woman, it is her intelligence and kindness that is irresistible.

There is a biological component here involving testosterone but this oversimplies the human condition. Vive la difference!

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Can't agree with either. We're attracted to who we're attracted to. Gender has nothing to do with it.

ugly Level 7 July 6, 2018
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Yep

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Unfortunately the idea has been claimed so often that most believe it. It is true in many cases as is the reverse. I always seem to attract women by what I can do or provide for them and conversely seem to be drawn to women in need. All the old tales of Gawain seems to affect both.

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It is biology. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't true.

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Even for objects, we don't always go for physical appearances. Sometimes it is the strength, sometimes it is flexibility or transparency or brilliance etc. So..? I don't know! I am not trying to make a point.

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I never thought of it that way before. Makes sense

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There's definitely some of that going on.

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I think that may be a broad generalization. I believe most people are attracted to what they perceive to be beauty in the short-term, but that other aspects are considered when planning for the long-term.

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one of my face book friends asked what do you look for in a mate. Well I listed friendly, intelligence, good sense of humor then said not obese well when they got to obese I became superficial and unfeeling and so forth. they said thy would not matter what they looked like as long as they were good. Then I came back missing teeth, bad body order, 300 plus pounds unkept clothes. They for a friend it would not matter to them. I said the post was a bout a mate not friends. I have meet women and some are superficial. They want rock hard abs acute smile. There are tons of women who marry because the guy is good looking or a bad boy.

I think most people want to be with someone who's attractive to them, and that standard is different for each individual. Perhaps you're not attracted to short people, or dark skinned people or overweight people, and your mind reacts accordingly. That is not to say that you might not meet someone who doesn't come close to fitting into your template and fall in love anyway. Likewise, I have met a lot of men who fit perfectly, but there was absolutely no attraction. You don't tell your heart who to love. Your heart tells you.

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Definitely an impact from society, but also biological although we've all heard that point before.

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mostly true but there are some women who go for looks and some men go by personality

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Or women are trained to see men as vectors for material support?

Piggy-backers.

@Faithless1
Yes I think it still applies. Women are taking care of themselves, but gender roles haven’t changed significantly. Attitudes towards the opposite sex are pretty much what they were when I was a kid.
The perspective that men are more attractive the more money they produce or the wealthier they are is still enforce. Same thing with men’s attitudes towards women.
Perhaps instead of making it a woman vs man issue, why don’t we make it a cultural change issue.

@Faithless1
I think you’re right on that account. I’ve never thought of women as objects, but I was raised by a single mother.

@Faithless1
Actually I think she did. She was raising three boys on welfare with no support from my father.

@Gatovicolo I don't buy into that. There are always going to be opportunists and takers, both men and women. But most women pull their weight financially these days. I was also raised by a single mother and she did a helluva good job in an era where an unskilled woman's work opportunities were very limited.

@TheoryNumber3
But men don’t get the benefit of the doubt? That seems a little one sided.
Also, culturally inspired attitudes don’t typically translate to real actions.

@Gatovicolo I don't think I implied that

@TheoryNumber3
This did:
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@Gatovicolo If you read one of my earlier posts it might clarify my position on the topic

@TheoryNumber3
Ok

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There may be something innate going on though.

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Meh, maybe initially. But I've found that some women get more attractive the more they speak and for others the opposite can be true. Go figure!!!

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