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An acquaintance of mine who is aware I am not a believer, keeps inviting me church functions like picnics & other social events. Several years ago I went to a christmas concert. I had nothing else to do that Saturday afternoon & I like music. Her pastor ended up sermonizing for at least 1/2 an hour of the 'concert'.

Since then I've declined most other invitations because these functions are much too "preachy" for me. Still she keeps persisting.

Finally, last weekend I lost my patience & asked her why she didn't take the hint & stop inviting me to these things.I wasn't interested in being preached to under the guise of entertainment.

She got into a snit & said I was "insulting" her closely held beliefs. I reminded her that she'd shown no respect for my beliefs over the years.

Could I have handled this in another, more diplomatic way?

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kozmic 6 Aug 13
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She may not see your non belief as something to think about. Or respect and she can't even understand it.

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I think you did well. If you want respect, learn to respect others.

JimG Level 8 Aug 13, 2018
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You could have handled it in a more diplomatic way but I don’t see what you did wrong. I’ve often wondered why I have to be respectful to people’s religious beliefs but the religious don’t have to respect my (lack of) beliefs.

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It's her choice to be insulted - even though I don't believe you insulted her at all, but was merely straight with her.
I've had some similar experiences with so called entertainment venues.
They just can't seem to stop selling !

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Yeah they spend all the time trying to cram their religious crap down your throat but when you tell them to leave you alone you've offended their beliefs what a bunch of hypocritical assholes

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Diplomacy doesn't work in trying to reason with a person with a narrow, self-imposed,intolerant frame of reference. It can be neither appreciated nor understood by them.

I'm happy for you at least that you recognize or relate to them as an acquaintance and not a friend.

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I'd say you were good.

However, I am perhaps them most outspoken atheist I know and, surrounded by theists, live alone with no expectations of every finding a suitable rational (not theist) woman to share my life with so my opinion is rather biased.

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You must be quite young because the answer was to never even get to that point., Be proud of yourself and amplify that with respectful ways that they are out too lunch and you do not want to go
In our younger years we continue to care about hurting other;s feelings and that is a wonderful training ground for reality, We know we are good, as to even care, but the only reason they keep trying is that they do believe you are the one lacking and they can indeed save you.
You are the one knowing and you may serve them a wonderful experience by saying bye bye

EMC2 Level 8 Aug 13, 2018
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You put up with it FAR longer than I ever would have.
You handled it just fine. Actually really damned proud of you for
pointing out her hypocrisy to her when you had the opportunity.
If she wants to be in a snit, fuck her.

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Respect is a 2-way street

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You probably could have but she would not get it and she would continue. They do not deserve to have the high ground.

Do it like the comedians do. "You believe what? That's the most stupid fucking thing I have ever heard."

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religious freedom merely means that they get to pound you with theirs instead of vice versa.

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nope constant badgering is insulting to a friendship she knew your beliefs and chose to continue to insult it by ignoring it if its a close friendship you should get past it if its just an acqaintance then who knows.

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NO. I think your reaction was perfect!

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Possibly but I like your response =)

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This would be so green eggs and ham but with flies. Flies and mold.

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Nope.

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Perhaps you could have been more diplomatic, but sometimes people don't understand anything unless you are totally blunt. You are entitled to express how you feel

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Why to be "more diplomatic"...or diplomatic at all with a person who doesn't respect you? I would have told her NO the very first time and keep my distance from her 100%.

They will always attempt to blame you because deep down in their ignorance they know they are wrong....and blaming others is their defense

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After years of her disrespecting you, you did the right thing. Enough is enough.

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Not knowing the tone of voice or words used it’s not really possible to say if you could have handled it better but I admire your patience putting up with it for years.

I will also say your rejoinder about her not respecting your beliefs was spot on.

For
Some reason the religious expect to receive the respect that they do not offer

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Perhaps you shouldn't have stewed so long that you lost your patience? I don't know. But I can pretty much guarantee you that your friend is confusing lack of interest with "insult", or, more exactly, personal attack, and that is HER problem, not yours. To most fundamentalists, anyone who doesn't share their enthusiasms constitute an irrational perception of an existential threat.

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I think you should have been way more honest since the beginning. And not let it go that far. I guarantee you that she was taking you attending those events as her doing “god’s work”, trying to convince you.

But what happened, happened. And as you explained it, you did the right thing given the circumstances.

Good luck in the future.

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There's always a 'more diplomatic way' but here you have someone who you've identified as 'an acquaintance' as opposed to a friend, who knows your belief system, but continues to ask you to join her, and when you reach your limit of having to decline, are accused of 'insulting' her belief system. It seems to me that most believers, of whom I was once a member, never once consider how 'insulting' that their repeated solicitations and even proselytizing very often is to the uninterested nonbeliever.

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It is nice when people want to be in your company and share. I think I would have told her that I was not interested in attending anything with a religious theme and suggested something else.

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