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Episode 3 of "Stupid things Christians say to me"

A coworker and I were discussing the circumstances that had resulted in another employee being escorted out of the facility and told to not come back.

I mentioned that she had been inappropriate with me as well on an occasion related to her trying to force religion on me.
I made the statement, "She just couldn't understand that I could be a good person without "god" and didn't need the hocus pocus.

My coworker said, "Well it isn't about being a good person it is about believing."

She is christian so I said, "so being a christian isn't about being a good person?"

Her answer was, "No, anybody can be a good person but to get into heaven you have to believe in god. It is about having faith in something you can't see."

Uhm....
Yeah, I just had to walk away on that one.

Crimson67 8 Aug 17
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Next time point out how Hitler was a Christian. Ask if he's in her "heaven" now. Watch her head explode.

I've actually asked this one before and it was mind-boggling: yes, if he accepted Christ and repented in his heart, then he'll go to heaven. I try not to converse about it anymore or it would make my head explode.

@Lauren I would then reply "I hope you enjoy spending eternity with him." ?

@Randalltague Oh, mercy no, Randall. I would like to but, with few exceptions, I don't engage in casual debate about religion with the religious where I live. I've found that they get quite testy about their beliefs and over-react.

@Lauren lol, I'm 6'1 300lb. No one argues with me all that hard. Not without stepping back a few feet at least. Then I can just walk away.

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At least she was honest about it, stupid and wrong, but still honest. Ask her if those child molesting priests, who believe in god, are going to heaven, and ask where the children go.

@maturin1919 I think they can go to hell

@maturin1919 yes, I know. To both statements lol

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So what is the point of going to Heaven, then? So you can spend the rest of Eternity with a bunch of people that aren't necessarily even good people, but they all believe in something they can't see?

There's an awful lot of mass murderers that believed in the same god these people do, this makes me certain I don't want to spend any part of an afterlife in their company (the believers or the mass murderers).

Nahhhh....see....once you get to heaven, you're too busy taking flying lessons, harp lessons and writing hymns, etc. You don't have time to think of doing something fun or naughty!

Did you ever read Twain's little book, "Letters from the Earth?" An angel is sent to earth to try to understand humans. He writes letters back to god....in one chapter, he talks about how mystifying it is that humans imagine a heaven full of things they never like to do!

@LucyLoohoo I'll have to check that book out.

@chilehead9 Oh, DO! It's slyly funny...Twain-style!

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To be a good christian, makes no differance how good a person you are....you have to suspend rational thought...by having "faith" in god....when you do away with rational thought. ....then you can be led....faith can lead you to believe that god "lives" without having to define the term "being alive"....having "faith" allows the irrational guilt that you are "born in sin " to lead to control..... religion is the supreme evil that has castrated rational thought for the past two thousand years..and I'm ranting again.

@seekerplease welcome...wish I could remember where the original thought came from.

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People are stupid.

By and large, people are so fucking stupid it's amazing that they even have a pulse. I'm beginning to think that The Walking Dead is reality TV.

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Haha, sounds like Hardin County. Most “christians” say that a non christian can’t be good and moral, I guess your co-worker isn’t drinking the same kool-aid as the others.

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Faith is believing something to be true that you know is not. I read that somewhere

Nardi Level 7 Aug 17, 2018
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I vividly remember my cousin (my aunt had married a devout Irish Catholic) telling me that she could do all the bad things she wanted to and then go to church on Sunday, pay sixpence and be forgiven. I must’ve been about six years old but can clearly remember how appalled I felt.

This has always seemed so wrong to me. Since I was about 5 yo I knew it was inheritently wrong.

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This is that time when that "facepalm" emoji would come in handy

I was thinking exactly that ?

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I've spoked with a few people that claim Baptist as their faith so I link that belief about "believing" without having to do good works to the Baptists. I've been told doing good things doesn't get you to heaven. "So you don't have to be a good person in order to get to heaven?", is my question. The few believers that have told me this were definitely NOT good people, in my book. They had nasty, angry, aggressive dispositions. One couple, husband and wife, certainly treated their extended family (his and her children) like shit. At a grandchild's baptism, the wife berated the children for not paying more attention to the husband/grandfather. ?!?!? So the baby is not the star of the "show"? The grandfather should have been? Anyway, the "logic" of Christianity baffles me.

I think that's a convenient bastardization of the scripture. The point was that good works ALONE wouldn't get one to heaven. That's the loophole that will cast those "believers" into their fantasy hell. They forget that belief and good works are linked.

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I would reply by citing this verse . [biblegateway.com].

GOOD ONE! Thanks! (Adding that to her arsenal....)

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I'm not trying to defend the faith they have but you don't need religion to be stupid. I've come across just as many atheists who have spouted off just as many half cooked ideas. People are inherently stupid, reactive creatures.

I have often thought that some atheist just trade in religious delusions for secular delusions. I have done it myself at times, but constantly ask myself "Why?". Why do I believe this? Why do others not? Why does society run this way? Why don't we do it this way? I have my bias and opinions, but I try to hold myself logically accountable for those beliefs. Sometimes I don't like the answers I give myself, but I'm a lot less angry and opinionated than what I use to be...at least I hope so.

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Yeah I feel ya. I had some guys try to convert me in college, cupping their hands and asking if I believed what they had in their hands. I said let me see it. They said, no you have to believe. I finally said ok, I believe now let me see it and they said, no, if you believe we don't have to show you. It's dizzying. It's ok, I'm going to Bora Bora when I die-you can come with me.

lerlo Level 8 Aug 17, 2018
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Ri-i-i-i-ght ....

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Punctuated with a yeah right

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Facts generally mean nothing to believers, however these facts help shed light on ignorance.

  1. Judaism does not believe in hell. Hell is a catholic invention 1st century AD

  2. In Judaism there exist 7 levels to heaven, at least this how the concept was created. I should say the 9 orders of Angels live in the 7 spheres of heaven, with one Angel Azazel chained to a rock in the bottomless pit. The Angels that fell live in 3rd sphere of Heaven.

  3. The German term God traces it's etymological roots to the Latin term Deus, from the Greek term Zeus.

  4. Adam in Hebrew means man.

  5. The tree of life means your linage

Etre Level 7 Aug 17, 2018
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"Wouldn't it be funny if I went and you didn't and I got to wave to you as I ascended?"

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Man, you missed the perfect opportunity to sell her some magic beans in exchange for her cow. lol

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Most have no idea what they believe. It changes depending on the given circumstances.

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Ugh. I’ve have had several run ins like this over the years. People say the stupidiest things and wonder why you sit there staring at them after they unleash something like this. By her logic you could be ‘saved’ and torture kittens in your basement every night and still make it into heaven. And if a believer murders someone do they still end up in heaven ? For a supposedly narrow road that leads to salvation it sure it easy to get it. Just believe !!!!! Ugh ugh.

Ohub Level 7 Aug 17, 2018
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Yep, you can be the shittiest person, abusive, lying, cheating or Trump, and as long as you have faith that your invisible friend is real you get a ticket to wonderland when you kick the bucket. You can be the greatest person, charitable, family oriented, caring but not believe and sorry, no ticket for you! This disturbs me.... Not at all. I tell those who threaten me with hell that it has the same fear factor as telling me I am getting nothing from Santa ? for Christmas.

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Best not to engage. Faith is not rational.

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You have a lifetime’s job ahead of you if you are intending to catalogue ALL the stupid things they say.

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She actually described Christianity fairly accurately!

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You should had escorted her behind the woodshed and show her the other side of you that is not a good person. I had been challenged plenty of times in my life.

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