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I would never debate someone on their religious beliefs (unless they ask to have that debate) but I always try to tell people that I'm an atheist when religion comes up. I just think it's important that people in our communities know we exist and that we're pretty awesome human beings. Thoughts? Also I'm new so hello = )

klang72 5 Sep 6
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If it comes up I tell them I'm an atheist but I don't care to debate anyone there beliefs are not my problem.

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And welcome

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Unfortunately it is often the case that the atheist is willing to respect the belief of the theist, but the theist is seldom willing to accept the status of we the atheists and feels compelled to warn us we are going to burn in hell unless repentance is forth coming.
Such sentiments I find both insulting and presumptuous as well as showing a complete lack of respect for me and mine.

Yes, that is absolutely true. I think we end up having to be the bigger person far too often.

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I like your attitude.

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I agree. I try not debate religious ideologies but when I do I'm always critical of the idea and never the individual I'm engaging with. Mostly because you can't cure stupid... That's a joke BTW ?

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I have never told those I work with. I work in a medical field. Which as we all know we put science to work. Because I have heard religious discussions between staff members. Talk about cognitive dissonance. Still this is Texas so better to remain quiet.

Yeah, it's tough when it's job related. I was less vocal when I was teaching kindergarten because here in FL that could have been a pretty significant issue.

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I think that's a good attitude, don't push it on others, but don't hesitate to state your position when it comes up.
Welcome to the site...

skado Level 9 Sep 6, 2018

Thank you!

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What perceive about atheists is the same that people perceive about the vegan at the dinner party “trust me, they’ll let you know.” I totally agree with the idea of not being the one to bring it up but as a fellow Floridian, here is some crazy religiousness in this state and we atheists can not and should not be quiet when religion is brought up.

Most of us will be the first atheists some people ever meet. It's good for them to know that not only are we real but we're good people too. That's why I won't debate though, I don't want to be like "hey, I'm the only atheist you know and I'm a giant pain in the ass."

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Unless asked directly, I don’t tell people about my non-belief, even if people are talking about religion(as extremely rare as that is). It’s like if two friends were talking about jazz, and I’m not into jazz. I don’t jump in and say I don’t like jazz. I have nothing to contribute to the discussion.

Yeah, that makes sense. I think my past experience is why I choose to be vocal about it. One lady told me she "had never met a real atheist before" and getting to know me really changed her mind about what we're like. I once had a coworker who was like "you're a really good person so you can't be a real atheist. All the real atheists I know are in prison." I like to shake up those perceptions when possible, but that's also very much a product of where I live.

@klang72 That makes sense as well.

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I don’t want to hear about someone’s beliefs, so I’ll avoid the conversation unless I’m feeling especially aggressive or dominant.

Hi

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I agree (we're pretty awesome! LOL!), and welcome to the community (also pretty awesome!). I don't go out of my way to get into debates over religion, but I do own several Atheist T-shirts now and have worn most of them around town. So far, it hasn't generated any controversy. In fact, a server at a sports bar I like complimented me on it (it says "FICTION" with the letters being comprised of various religious and mythological symbols). I don't think she got the point. LOL!

I saw that once on a bumper sticker and it's been once of my favorites ever since. I'll have to get one for myself.

@klang72 Redbubble.com. =]

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I personally love to debate, and I'm pretty defensive about my religious and political views. Some people just aren't worth the energy though.

Hai!

I think I like it a little too much but it has yet to change anyone's mind. I do get really excited when someone wants to have a go at it though lol.

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I actually do the same now that I think about it. If someone is religious and wants to discuss I'll tell them I'm an atheist and I won't debate someone unless they want too. Once I figure out how to be "pretty awesome" I'll contribute there as well. Also, hello!

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Welcome, great attitude to have.. hope you enjoy the site

Thank you!

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Proselytizing annoys me, whether it comes from religion or atheism. I will debate a bit in a proper forum, but it never changes anyone's mind. At best, it reassures those outside the debate that atheists think things through. At worst, it looks like an atheist is trying to take away a religious person's comforting lie.

It's true, it never does. That's why I don't bother.

I am, however, an open atheist. I certainly do not hide it when asked. And I will answer good-faith questions about why.

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Hello and welcome!
I too will debate religion with the religious but now I mostly do it on their request. I used to make it a more regular pasttime and a point when people were recruiting but then felt I was being an ass making them think when they clearly do not want to. To each their own so I decided to live and let live. None of my business what everyone else chooses to believe or why

I figured I can let it be and keep religion as a personal choice. It does no harm if it is only personal like politics or sexual preferences.

Haha yeah people really don't like that, do they? And thank you!

@klang72 Unfortunately true. I mean there are times I am very happy not to be thinking but those are more partner based activities

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Hello and welcome! I agree totally. I remember reading a list just a couple of years ago of the top 10 scary qualities of bad people...atheism was #1. I have been ostracized by some seriously evengelical family members. They also support Trump and guns...so there's that. Morals and good character don't require religion and it's important we show ourselves.

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I avoid religious topics here, this area is more conservative that I would prefer. I also avoid labeling myself, other than non-religious.
I do have some close friends that I enjoy debating with..

Hello and welcome neighbor ?

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Hello my name is fredo. I was baptized a catholic but never believed. I was somehow gifted with a natural questioning logical mind when i was young. I do the same when it comes to defending my choice of being atheist. They say its ok god still loves you. I learned people who believe in god are easily offended. So i keep my voice on the matter quite. I was recently thinking of writing memo on how being an atheist is a double standard, compared to people who believe in god.

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That's a good attitude/perspective. Welcome to the asylum. 🙂

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I will never debate anyone on religion. If asked I will give them my reasons why I am an A-theist then tell them I have no interest in hearing anything they have to say on the subject. I sometimes ask if there is any chance that I could change their mind and if they say no (they always say no) then I say what's the point of discussing it.

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I agree, I'm always upfront with others, even my clients. It's led to interesting discussions. Although one client did stop the massage halfway through and just want to talk to me about faith. It was very strange, but by the end she understood why I didn't believe, the events in my life that led me there.

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I'd like to discuss religion with people more often. But I'm pretty careful not to dive into it in most environments.

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Welcome to the asylum. Enjoy your stay.

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I don't debate folks unless they try to proselytize me. Then the gloves come off.
Welcome to the group.

gearl Level 8 Sep 6, 2018
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