I don’t think he was a bad guy and I don’t want to shame anyone... I chose my word pourposely and carefully a bit vague.

@mychelle How can this be about shaming? This about examples of behavior that disturbed you.

Our responses will be more interesting. And more to the point.

And we all learn.

@mychelle Shaming is about a bully saying shit about an innocent.
The guy was the bully. So, you are not saying shit about anyone innocent.
And, those who behave as you have described need to be outed to the extent possible.

@Jacar why? He didn’t do anything wrong? We just didn’t connect he is just different than me... there are people on my threads being way more disrespectful than he was... I can handle my own life events

agnotics are denying the ability to know gods don't exist. they aren't by any necessity hanging on to the notion that they do.

@HereticSin I differ on that. I think that they are. BTW - I "cannot know" that a purple winged pig in a tutu, doesn't exist in the sky.

@LilAtheistLady and? that proves that agnostics think there is a god how?

@HereticSin OK. I'm not afraid of "being wrong" or learning something new. Lets talk this out.
Here is a definition that I found online. Your thoughts?:

1. a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

@LilAtheistLady yes, that's my working definition. they accept neither "there is a god" nor "there is no god" as knowable assertions, and reject the positive claim passively as opposed to actively.

"disbelief" is active, it's not the same as "lack of belief"

@HereticSin I am trying to understand.
In my mind i interpret that to mean that the agnostic completely dismisses the human intellect's capacity to reason in that they rely on the "prove a negative" argument that suggests that since one cannot prove or disprove (we cannot know or not know) purple winged ghost pigs in tutus exist in the sky or do not exist, there can be the potential that they do (or not).

@LilAtheistLady oh, that I don't disagree with, but "agnostic" is about "justified true belief", demonstrable knowledge, not "justified belief", an assumption of truth based on reason.

the term is about what can be KNOWN vs. what should be believed. the guy who coined it was an atheist, but would have laughed at "I know there is no god" as much as he did "I know there is a god".