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Someone on Facebook asked this question: is there one God, many gods, a higher power, or only science?

Here was my answer...

There is only science. But what’s science? It is the practice of observation and measurement. That’s all. But there are things we can observe and measure, and other things we cannot. Science discovers new things each and every day. What we used to attribute to God, science eventually explains. But that’s because we now have the tools and knowledge to be able to properly observe and measure. However, there are still some things we cannot explain. Yet. Will there only be science? Maybe. But my thinking is, there will always be something unexplainable, something new, something beyond comprehension, something beyond measurement. You can call THAT God. But call it what you will, until then, anyone who claims to know (or worse yet, claims that what he knows can and should dictate how other people can live their lives) that, to me, is not only unscientific but also ungodly.

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Michel 4 Sep 10
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Perfect answer.

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Yes but the huge difference between science and God is, science will change its answer if it is not correct to where religion just says well it's in the book.

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Religions were invented to enslaved and subjugate. Sciences are the only way to explain reality and to free us.

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Yes, I agree, many people attribute everything that is yet unknown to "god/s" for lack of any other way to process not knowing. I have no problem with people thinking about their god/s in a metaphorical sense for "that which is unknowable" until they impose their belief on others and try to keep scientists and scholars from discovering answers for that which we don't know yet.

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Bertrand Russell correctly observed: "All religions lay claim to the truth and as a matter of simple logic, only one of them could true." A scientific truth is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of observable fact.

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Only one thing is true about the word GOD. Someone left out the other o in the middle. Good is what life is all about. Evolution is all about making something good better. Every eco system is for the good of the whole. That goodness is hard to measure except through time. There is good. Evil is the the distruction which is necessary for the whole good. Evil is the necessary opposite of good. Live. Vs evil. Good vs God.

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All that religion has is the God of the gaps. Science has proven that a lot of things the theist say God did is just natural events.

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I like what you posted. I agree that the unexplained could be because of a god or whatever. But until there is evidence of god, that is still an unacceptable conclusion.
Science is the practice of observation and measurement, in the search for explanations. But in the absence of explanations, you don't get to make up something to fill in the blanks. Science may not have all the answers. But until something has evidence it is simply left unexplained, nothing more than that.

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God and science are not mutually exclusive. They could both exist, however science exists simply because it is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Science is not an unknown destination, but the act of walking.

There is a .0-repeating-1 percent chance that a god exists. So I'm perfectly comfortable in saying no, there is no god.

When you speak of God are referring to the God of the gaps? Theist like to insert God in the place that science has yet to discover.
I believe in zero gods.

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religious people seem to think science is either a force that controls things or a belief system contrary to (or in some cases strangely compatible with) their particular religion. of course it is neither. science doesn't DO anything, and it isn't a THING that sits there waiting for someone to believe in it or not. it's a study. it's the study of how things are, and how things work, in the physical world. until they understand that, even the most logical, plainly put explanation goes zzzzzzzzip! right over their heads.

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Sounds like a real roundabout way to hedge your bets to me.

I don't think we should be looking at ways to soften the blow that barring an alien race showing up, we are all we got out here in this Universe.

BTW, We choose to USE science to create art, or philosophies, or whatever. Art and philosophy aren't going to do jack shit for you when you and yours are huddled from the cold in a cave and starving. Science will put food in your belly and keep you warm.

Science first, everything else next.

Welcome to the madhouse sir!

Well said!

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I have about decided that the god concept is nothing but a metaphorical symbol for the great mysterious reality beyond our everyday matter/space/time model. “God” is not something to be believed or disbelieved, rather, the concept should prompt deep awareness, extreme awe, appreciation and gratitude for the staggering implications of existence.

Science is in a totally separate category. It’s is our workhorse for learning about our world. We should respect and use its findings while recognizing its limitations.

This is only what I myself am currently thinking. I know that most Christian Churches want you to say that you believe. They think that by believing you will somehow worm your way into heaven. How ridiculous! The fact that some people are off in a supernatural la la land does not invalidate the god concept IMO.

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I would say anyone is entitled to have their own special friend up in the sky or in a river or wherever, but no one is entitled to try to make anyone else believe in that special friend. do as you like but don't force me into anything I don't want as that would make you the aggressor and I will never ever be a victim .

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I think you started out logically enough until you got to the bit about us never knowing everything and then you departed from logical thinking by saying we could call what we don’t know God. No we can only call it the great unknown. Nothing can ever be ungodly as there is no god in the first place. Anyone who claims to know everything is delusional at best and dishonest at worst.

Right. That's what I meant. I was saying, "call THAT god if you want." Not that I would. Anyway, great point.

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"Only" science? No. What about art, culture, philosophy, video games? How could you forget video games? Who needs some lousy gods when you can have those things.
Btw I don't care if I sound like I'm 12.

Dietl Level 7 Sep 10, 2018

Art is subjective, and really doesn't mean a whole lot compared to science. Same with culture or philosophy. They have little to do with science, and much more to do with emotion. They only hold meaning for those who think
they have meaning.
That is not everyone.
Lastly, you wouldn't have video games without science.

Science is the only thing that actually touches the lives of everyone.

It's all science, whether it be the "soft" science of sociology or the hsrd science that goes into video gaming.

What I was responding to was the notion that there was "only science", as if even if no gods exist that was the only thing of value.
We can have a debate if science is more valuable than art, philosohpy etc. and I would probably agree with a lot of what you are saying, but to say that those things don't "touch the lives" of at least some people is ridiculous. Would you say emotions are irrelevant for human existence?
Lastly, we wouldn't have video games without art and you know what, you wouldn't even have an avatar.

@godef
Science is the method to understand the world, not how to deal with that understanding.

Without philosophy, there would be no science. Philosophy comes first. Think about Aristotle's logic.

@KKGator In your opinion. Because in my opinion, science is art's butch. Have a nice day. 🙂

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Ohferpetessake........all you "ungodly" people reading this, try not to hurt yourselves while ROFLYourAO!

Best answer by far. 🙂

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