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I just had a mind blowing conversation with my fundamental christian mother. We discussed the bible, evolution, the universe, and other light subjects.

She tearfully admitted that she does not believe the bible to be infallible. She said that it was obviously, "too full of man".

She politely asked me to stop because I was, "crumbling the last foundations of her faith".

I informed her that I wasn't attempting to do that, but that I was glad she was willing to talk about it with me.

I never thought this day would come.

She told me that she thought I was very intelligent and thoughtful and that she admired me.

Up until today, I was only described as wayward and sinful.

Oh, happy day!

Donotbelieve 9 Sep 13
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I hope your mother realizes that she does not need a false belief to be a good person and a loving mother. She's perfect without any need for any god. Let her know that being the great mother she is makes her special, period.

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I hope your relationship goes well!

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A mother's love is a blessing

@Donotbelieve here I was thinking you had a reconciliation evidently not.How thoughtless I was to be happy for you if you did.

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That's awesome, thankfully my parents have always been supportive but we've had minor disagreements over the decades.

Reuniting and drawing closer together is awesome, I'm glad and impressed you did so with a fundamentalist parent!

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Some headway. Good.

@Donotbelieve Sorry.

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Glad to see she still understands and supports your views, many aren't that fortunate.

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That must've been SUCH a gratifying moment! I hope your relationship continues to grow. "Coming out" isn't easy for anyone...admitting you've been wrong in a deeply-held belief. Good for her. (And, I'm very sorry about the ''wayward and sinful'' insults. Those must hurt.)

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Ahh nice. My mom is just a conformist that wishes I were a conformist.

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That's awesome

kuali Level 4 Mar 3, 2019
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That's wonderful that your mother complimented you; it doesn't matter ones age, good words from our mothers is heart-warming!

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My heart aches that religion put pressure on yours and your mom's relationship. I hope everything gets better and better!

Angee Level 4 Feb 26, 2019
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My introduction to Christianity was having the elders in my family telling me I was going to burn in hell if I sinned. They didn't tell me what sin was and I didn't ask because I thought if I didn't know what it was I could get away with it. I think I was an atheist right out of the chute! I was constantly asking questions about the loving god and his role in disasters, starving children, wars and all the other stuff that seemed out of step with an earthly Christian paradise. I am constantly amazed at seemingly stable, Intelligent people who would gladly have the bible as the law of the land. Brainwashing is hard to overcome. I hope your mother finds the peace she seeks.

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Wow I’m so torn about this...partly because I envy your situation and partly because I feel so bad for your mother, it is so much more difficult to deconstruct later in life. Backfire effect,

@Donotbelieve well, don’t lose hope...a seed doesn’t grow over night. It has to watered with doubt and “critical thinking” ?

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Congrats for escaping hell..

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Well done. And you have a good mother!

@Donotbelieve, I mean just in this context, because they generally just relentlessly fight you and never give up, calling you heretical!...heretical!

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Sounds like her critical thinking mode is starting to take over.

@Donotbelieve I admire and respect your attitude and conduct. I have often been too much of an atheist. Blind faith and refusal to do critical thinking can anger me if I let it.

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Congrats. And I’m glad you didn’t instigate this, but allowed her to come to her own conclusion about it. There’s no need to make her feel any worse than she already must feel. I hope you get closer to your mother.

@Donotbelieve That's unfortunate. I totally get it. There is totally such a thing as too little, too late. And for what it's worth, that might be some poor ass way your mom is apologizing for all the shit she did when you were younger. My dad has yet to say, "I'm sorry." The most he'll do is, "I regret," expecting me to say something to make him feel better. I'm done with all that, so whenever he goes on his tirades, I say, "yeah," or "no," because I can't be that mindless of a robot for him.

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I sincerely hope this is a break through in what sounds like previously strained relationship. Congratulations to you both.

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Wow. Just... wow.

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Wanna talk about a miracle this sounds like it may qualify, lol

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My 87 year old mom lives by, and will die peacefully in her faith. Of her five children two of us are atheists. I'm disturbed that kids are indoctrinated like I was before they have a chance to decide. OTOH my brother and I did decide and are doing great in our freedom to explore, but I digress. Confronted with the reality that her beliefs taught her to believe that we were going to hell, rather than accept that horrific nonsense her beliefs have evolved in such a way that she sees the grace of God as being sufficient for all of us. Too bad more Christians aren't like our moms. Namaste!

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Thats amazing to be able to have that conversation with your mom!

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i'm so sick of the bible bullshit.....BUT there is something going on out there bigger than me.....and it is important to be a good person. I went to IANDS meetings for 10 years, i me a lot of people who died and came back. Consciousness is something else. I had an experience when my mother died in 1994. It changed my life forever, but I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GOD IN THE BIBLE......and or Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha.....they will take your money.

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I too have had lengthy conversations with my family members on the subject of my non-beliefs. They always end the same way. They’ll pray for my repentance or I shall burn in the lake of fire. Congratulations on the awakening of your mother. My mother who was ravaged with cancer went to her grave believing God would heal her cancer.

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My Mom basically told me that she doesn’t believe it all, but if she didn’t believe some, her world would crumble. At least she admitted to not being completely brainwashed.

@Donotbelieve Ask your Mom if Jesus ever bopped the monkey?

@FlyingEagle1952 That was pretty rude.

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