I'm familiar with Bruggencate and his silly ideas. Basically his argument is "You know god exists, you simply choose to deny it." He uses the bible to prove the existence of god in the same way I would use Mother Goose if I were trying to prove the existence of Humpty-Dumpty. He references a work of fiction to prove the existence of a fictional character.

He also has a smugness that I find comical given the stupidity of his arguments.

You can’t use logic to dissuade someone who didn’t use logic to reach their viewpoint in the first place.

“Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to this level and beat you with experience” -Mark Twain

I've seen quite a few debates between believers, and non-believers. A good part of them were civil, which I like, I like good conversation as well.

But I have to say that Sye Ten Bruggencate is the biggest tool I've ever seen. He is a broken record of circular reasoning.

I've seen many interviews of those who had debated him, and they all say the same thing, "never again".
I don't blame them.

I find that it comes down to this.. Deists want to provide the weakest possible argument for existance and I personally don't care. Its fine if you want to beleive that, I don't care. Its the next step that bothers me ..
They go from "It is POSSIBLE that a god exists" so it Is not absurd to believe that my particular book from antiquity is no longer mythhology and fiction. Furthermore it deserves to be treated as a divine authority.

The leap is so large I just can't imagine how they are possibly serious.

Religion is indoctrination. Period. They can't help it and it's VERY difficult to overcome. I can't listen to people such as him without getting nauseas and sad so I try to avoid them entirely.

Silly circular arguments in which the assumption and the conclusion are essentially the same thing. It's like: I am right because I know I am right, and you know that I am right even if you don't consciously know that you know that I am right. Right?

I dismiss anyone who makes the claim that any gods have ever existed.
Unless and until there is credible, verifiable evidence of the existence of ANY god, I will continue to believe there is no such thing.

Fundamentalist "thought" is a fun-house hall of mirrors ... that's actually no fun whatsoever.

Circular reasoning and special pleading and gaslighting are all they have, and Bruggencate at least has the virtue of cutting right to the chase and being loud and proud about it. You know what you're getting.

I really like all the points you make. And to expand on some of your points I would like to make some bold statements maby some of you guys might like to consider 1 I think evolution should not only be a theory of the diversity of the species but maby an actual law of physics, here's what I mean knowing the understanding of how evolution works if you look around at everything in our life when ever changes are made theyre usually made with the attempt to improve opon the Pryor if it does not show to be an improvement it will then get discarded. So I think we live completely in an evolutionary universe. 2 it doesn't appear to me that the universe looks designed , in the past I thought that the dna molicule looked designed, but then I thought how could it be designed because there wouldn't have been anything to contrast that design to in other words it would seem that nature invents and observers improve opon . An example houses look designed but wouldn't you agree that they are just improvements on caves . Caves have walls a ceiling and an opening into.Any way like to here your thoughts on those examples I gave you. also as a bonus I may be able to prove something can come from nothing, stay tuned

Sye Ten Bruggencate and others like him simply need to study how the bible came into existence and when it came into existence. Along with this will be the many books left out and why those that were allowed were allowed. It can then be easily seen that this bible is so far removed form Jesus and god that it is not even funny. When you see the 66 books independently you can also understand why the bible contradicts itself. Bruggencate is like so many others in so much that he believed before he studied and people like this will believe the book and believe it proves itself and god. Real life does not work that way.

Well put!

To the argument, "Everyone knows that God actually exists, therefore God actually must exist," I would point out Matthew 7:13-14. Here is the New International Version:

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

In other words, do not form your beliefs based on popularity. Think for yourself.

Also, as johnprytz points out, the premise "Everyone knows that God actually exists" is false. There are about seven billion people on this planet, and nearly that many definitions of "God." If god is love (1 John 4), then yes, I would say that love exits. I can also agree that the CONCEPT of gods exists, but not the reality of gods. At the very idea of a real immortal person sitting on a great white throne in the sky, stroking his long, white beard, micromanaging the universe, and condemning dead people to Hell, I can only laugh out loud at such absurdity. I KNOW that Bruggencate's god does NOT exist, so I disprove that premise. Without me, "eveyone" is not everyone.

Let them watch this and watch them squirm starting about 5 minutes in.

[agnostic.com]

I'll just ignore the YouTube videos thank you.