Problem was, it wasn’t ‘george bush jr,’ it was President Cheney ...and he did a lot of damage.. At least trump is a known quantity, and, he’s destroying the Republican Party ..as we type

My stepson would argue rather passionately that Bush was as bad, even worse, in that he could construct a facade of civility while promoting basically the same policies using dog whistles instead of ham-fisted proclamations and tweets, and with an entirely covert, rather than overt, courting of the seedier elements of the conservative world (e.g., white nationalists and neo-Nazis). He would even argue that Clinton would have done the same thing while disingenuously claiming to be liberal.

I take his point but have to agree that if I could press a magic button to have either Clinton or even Bush over the Citrus Caligula -- I would. All that matters to me is that the erosion of democratic norms and institutions has geometrically accelerated under Trump, and I'll take the slower approach to THAT any day.

I was JUST having this conversation yesterday! But I am also with @cutiebeauty in that I would accept a monkey at this point. Their attention span is longer than Trump's and their mental cognition is about 100 points higher too!

However... Some might argue that we already have a monkey in the white house since Bill Maher did draw the comparison to the orange Orangutan... He DOES look like a close relative.

I would accept a monkey...

this, really?

When the Efff are we going to get rid of that orange gooooon????!!!!

Now that's sad commentary on the current state of the union.

George Bush again? With or without?