Good point!

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Thank you!!! ❤️❤️❤️

You are my new hero!!

Yeah, I tend to get sucked into that crap hoping to tactfully educate people. Obviously I haven’t learned from experience yet

@Marcie1974 lol I get it

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helo

Tongue in cheek ? Boys will not understand your post

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@maturin1919 so, the same reason men think women want unsolicited dick pics.

@A2Jennifer maybe these dickheads want a Hustler labia spread photo in return ?....They objectify themselves clueless they would not like being centerfolds themselves hung up on a greasy mechanic or snow plow shop by aggressive women

Well said

@CoastRiderBill Ehhh...I will give them a sentence or two to get things going, but if the text conversation is boring or bland, I lose interest quick. I know there are women that have had bad, and even scary, interactions with people online, so I try to keep my judgements in check. Maybe they are just shy, bad communicators online, bad experience with a stalker, etc. I agree though...I will cut some slack, but if it looks like I have to coddle their fragile emotions before even meeting on a first date...I'm out. We all have baggage, but at this point in the interaction I'm not willing to carry her's for her.

I get that men deal with stupid crap in dating sites as well. I wasn’t trying to downplay that, I was responding to someone else’s post and the derogatory comments a few men made.

If a guy has very little or no info on his profile, I’ll send him almost exactly the same message you stated.

I think what is so frustrating for women (again, I understand men have their things they have to deal with), is being seen as just body parts by some men.

@daylily How did I blame the vagina? I said the vagina doesn't automatically make someone special...and yes, I have dated and been told first hand stories about women who seem to think this. So you are saying that I am wrong that there are women who go on first dates and think they should be pandered to like a princess, just b/c they are a woman? That's odd...b/c I know guys that think they are superior b/c they have a penis, and in fact, see the same comments from women on here about men in general (not just a sub-group of grade A a-holes).

@Marcie1974 Sure...I absolutely get that...and realize that for many women, that may be the majority of online interactions. I'm not saying I don't stereotype women based on their profile or pics, I am just stating that one or two initial sentences shouldn't be a deal breaker. None of us should allow ourselves to get that jaded, myself included, which is why I take a break when I start to slide towards the dark side. I know you only get one chance to make a first impression, so it's important to try and do well. But dating sucks exponentially as you get older, and we should try and cut each other some slack. It's suppose to be somewhat fun and exciting after all...

'Hi Jayne (that's me btw), I am interested in your bio, especially what about paleo-anthropology interests you the most and how has this informed your agnostic views?'

Oh my gosh I’m so tempted to change my name!! Lol

@Marcie1974 you need to Miracle

hello

My current SO first messaged me with only the intent to be friends. We got to really know and value one another before we got involved and it's a much better way to start a relationship imo. We honestly like one another and enjoy time together and it's the most positive relationship I've had.
My takeaway here is that getting to know someone well before sex comes into play makes for a happier relationship.

Great question! I don’t remember verbatim but just something referencing either books/reading or music.

I assume that some women don’t actually write anything? Or at least I know a lot of men don’t. It’s difficult to write a first message then, especially if their pictures don’t make it obvious what their interests are. On the flip side, I’ve seen profiles that are a dozen long paragraphs. I don’t mean to sound overly picky but seriously, it’s not difficult to list a couple hobbies and maybe say what you’re looking for.

I need to learn that some people are not interested in learning basic respect (especially from a woman) and to just move on.

@Marcie1974 proud of you searching for complete understanding. ...shows true leadership serving others. ...you are already wise....you're not needy instead you're a giver not taking

But you have a beard...so you get extra points!

Umm you definitely aren’t hopeless. What you said is spot on! I don’t expect flowery poetry on a first message. But it’s not difficult to say: I see you like music, I too like music.

One of the best compliments a guy gave me was that he thought I was really smart. Part of it was the look on his face when he said it. Definitely swoon-worthy

I tried to cast you in my movie remake A BEAUTIFUL MIND with other reparte'

My panties instantly drop eye roll

@Marcie1974 yeah, me too.......

@Marcie1974 . . . I'd like to see that trick.

exactly!

Ive heard some women do not like a terse approach and require more just to get a response.

On the flip side; Its tough for us because its a numbers game. Most messages go without response or even being read.

Im certain that there is a middle ground.

@Marcie1974 . . .and he spent most of his time alone.

yes, and I don't mean to ignore what you men must deal with....but I only know the female side of it.

@Marcie1974 . . . yeah. But you are not stoopid, ignorant, nor incompetent. So, you cannot speak for all those who are.

How about hello, do you like “insert hobby”

Or, "Hello, your profile bio says you are into bla bla bla, and I enjoy that, too..."

@Marcie1974 . . ."insert hobby" yes.

@Marcie1974, @Deb57 . . . I was referring to a public forum and meeting a stranger. But that may work.

Or hello (name)... I'm Chris...i like your profile...i especially like that you are interested in (subject)... tell me more please...

@Falcone17east . . . that would sound stalky to a stranger in a public place. Don't ya think?

@Jacar how is that"stalky"...I receive messages like that and I much prefer those kind over the "Hey sexy" ones...shows they just might be interested in the actual woman attached to the pussy....

@Freespirit64 . . . In a public place a stranger says to you, "Hello, I read you profile. We have a lot in common."

How did they know who youare? How did they get access to your profile? Which one?

That would be stalky to me.

@Jacar I thought we were discussing internet contact, not face time...