And one third of the continental U.S. was taken from Mexico.

And the revolutionary war was the definition of people leaving the country they came from to live in someone else's land.

Difference was those immigrants killed the inhabitants or made them move rather than providing them with cheap unregulated labor.

@Veteran229 Meh.. they didnt like their government so they said it wasn't theirs. None of them were here for more than a few generations. This land was fully occupied before.

The US initiated and payed for the ousting of the first democratically elected leader in Guatemala in the 1950s. We paid for the 30+ year massacre that followed and used our power to pressure other countries to look the other way. It remains one of the poorest places with an extremely corrupt and incompetent government because of the actions we took and for the sake of cheap fruit.

We could take in the entire country and give them all welfare and free healthcare and it would not make up for what we did.

Considering how much of "Aid" America sends is actually military support to the oppressors... What is the 'generosity' you speak of?

I'm British and I've been to America. Believe me, you are not full. You are not even close to half-full. You probably don't know what full is. You are just xenophobic,greedy and selfish, and you don't want other people to have the benefits that you were given (don't kid yourself - YOU didn't fight for them) - that's all.

@Gareth ...I’m from out west, water is the key. Standard of living; do we care to live like ..Europe? And, there’s no more west, only an ocean.. We’re as full as we need or care to be.

..as far as ‘what I’ve fought for,’ you’ll never know ~

@MsAl The wrong people have led my nation too often and too long - our current battle is to get rid of them, not roll over and play dead with guilt. Puzzling, a nation that has supported such brutality … yet millions have flocked here from those nations? Two wrongs don’t make a right.

...edited to remove the name of my first respondee..

@Elganned How ‘full’ should we become..? How much more competitive? How much faster should be deplete our remaining resources? What standard of living do we aspire to?

The USA has been the most generous nation on the planet with regard to how many legal immigrants it’s taken, for decades. Few if any nation allows unregulated immigration, why should we? Things have changed, the world has filled up!

@JohnToth Generosity is having allowed more immigrants into this nation than any other nation… And we keep doing it. Not only legally, but allowing amnesty, and ‘paths to citizenship’ for those having snuck into our country. Instantly allowing their babies to become citizens, educating their children not born here, allowing an exorbitant amount of social services (paid for by US citizens) to be eaten up providing health care, food, housing… Some entire towns, or cities have declared themselves ‘sanctuaries.’

Sure, there’s been gradual cracking down on benefits, but in the long run - we’ve been extremely generous.

@Gareth “You are just xenophobic,greedy and selfish, and you don't want other people...” An English expert on the USA, and me? No, you don’t know me. And no, I don’t care to live in the squalid conditions I witnessed deep into Mexico even decades ago… And, I don’t care to win a challenge of how packed we can get. An overcrowded nation, or planet for that matter - is no sign of ‘success.’

@Varn only 14% of the American population are immigrants. It's over 20% for Canada. Even Switzerland has over 24%... Instead of repeating fox talking points, wouldn't it be better to fact check

@OwlInASack And you disappoint me, but you’re not alone

But this isn’t a game ..but I’m afraid it’s beyond your tolerance to attempt a lengthy timeline, and, I don’t feel like it But, I’ve lived & witnessed it. We’ve the most complex and powerful nation in history - divided in two. One side loves to poke the other; I don’t, but when I agree with the other side, and the side I appear to be on has ‘got it wrong,’ I speak up. Most don’t.

Recently, HRC proposed ‘open borders.’ Her opponent mysteriously won, in large part, not only playing to those who fear other races & cultures - but from the middle - those like myself, honest, and aware of the mistaken policies and unenforced boundaries that allow our nation, however imperfect, to remain autonomous.

I’ve met them … surely having spent more time in a political booth/s (actually wore them out!) than anyone reading this ..or perhaps using this site. But I didn’t get to hold office in this imperfect nation, I’m Atheist, but I did look to learn, and help as I could. Still do. As long as the political divide continues to allow one side to remain right on this issue, for whatever their core reasons, the other side will lose to the middle..

Yes, I voted for HRC, and yes, I’d left the Democratic Party with President Obama’s proclamation of executive amnesty, letting both the White House and my Congressional rep. know why. I’ve not re-registered (VA doesn’t require that), and continue to freakout Dem party who can’t understand why I’m not the ‘team player’ they’d hoped…

But who cares what I think, right? The far-wrong don’t … likely fearful ‘we’d’ rob them of their issue if the Dems began to support border enforcement, reverse instant citizenship (yes, a constitutional amendment), enforce e-verify, even reduce the number of legal immigrants, from anywhere (look what it takes to get into another nation, I have - you don’t just get to sneak in).. The wrong is rarely right ..but they’ve got their finger on the pulse on this one ... and if we fail to acknowledge that ..I suppose we deserve what we’ve got

@Varn Exactly, in the case of Central Americans the second wrong of deamonizing them and teargassing unarmed desperate families is very wrong. Its wrong that those people aren't allowed to at least apply for asylum.We have been living off their backs while they suffer since the industrial revolution. Helping those people would not be charity or kindness. We made the problem. I really don't think we could make it right.

We are also the ones who follow and spread rampant consumption and cars throughout the globe. We fight to stop regulations that might curb climate change. The Nations that have open livable land are going to have to "man up" and let more people join them. There are going to be refugees like never before.

...Ok.. steppin inside the house, no hornets Though open to learning, I’ve heard enough... And no need to hear from trump supporters, they don’t cross-over.. Any folks around here who may have cautiously stepped up to talk to me in the Democrat’s booth ..stating something like … “I was a Democrat for years,” “But can’t support them any more because I don’t support illegal immigration” ….and watched me nod with disappointment..?

Any folks around who, as did one couple ..quietly thank me after a meeting of Democrats for “Saying what we’ve always wanted to say ..but didn’t think we could because ‘we’re Democrats”? Anyone from Oregon who remembers the statewide vote that would have issued driver's licenses to illegal immigrants ..losing every county in the Blue state of Oregon ..but one?

Anyone around having witnessed up close & first hand the cost of both ignoring and rewarding illegal immigrants for nearly 40 years..? How bout our educators … care to describe the costs to our school districts for the additional burden of educating foreign students amid gang activity, many with no more desire to join our culture than we, theirs?

How bout those looking for entry level jobs, where various occupations have been taken over by ‘undocumented aliens.’ Any younger guys go into the military rather than compete with illegal workers willing to live 3 families to a house? Any generational US citizens needing social services finding them ‘used up’ by illegal immigrants?

I doubt it.. But they’re out there, and - they actually vote. And when a candidate, no matter how nasty the rhetoric, gives them an opportunity to do something, something totally legal and long overdue, they take it. But those are the people who need to speak up -- because there’s an entire political party that doesn't get it … and it’s costing this nation greatly ~

Um. Yeah. How were those going for you before we showed up?

You had to know this was coming.

True. The OP is really, really dumb. But, this also shows a lack of appreciation of history.

@beerkrump well, in the first one it would have taken another few years longer but the result would have been the same. Germany was starving by 1917. In the second one, most of Europe would be speaking Russian without your belated intervention. Better late than never, I guess.
I don't think you could argue that both conflicts would not have been significantly shorter if the USA had've been an enthusiastic ally from the start, rather than coming in 2-3 years after the start of hostilities.