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I want Trump to stay. He's an idiot and a racist and an opportunist. And he knows nothing of governance. And he appoints lackeys who know nothing of governance. His agenda is stalled and thwarted because he is a bully and a bumbler. Pence believes all that Trump does, perhaps more deeply, given his religion. Pence will get a honeymoon. "At last the grownups are in charge". Fucking Democrats will offer an olive branch in the name of civility. Pence knows how to govern. He'll get Trump's agenda done the way Trump can't. I want Trump to stay . Am I wrong?

Count_Viceroy 7 Dec 24
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Pence would be a lame duck President dealing with a Hose controlled by the Dems. He would be just as effective if he back to Indiana and waited till his term was over. If he ran for the office in 2020 he would get primaried.

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Most likely so. Neither Trump nor Pence would even be good as dog catcher. If all the bumbling doesn't get us blown up it certainly will get excessive money spent.

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At this point... Pence's dog would be better as president! I'd like to see him impeached as well as tried and executed for treason! Failing that... Some sort of jail time to see him locked away for a long time!

Yes... I'll take that for my Christmas present!

The one big concern over this scenario is the next in line is PELOSI. Scary thought isn't it.

@commander42 I do not like Pelosi for a variety of reasons. However, I would take her over what we have any day of the week! Everything in moderation. I do not like far right or far left. I like my government in the middle!

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Yes, you're wrong because Pence wants to remove the separation of church and state...it's one thing to be against the freedom of the press (First Amendment) but Pence will also attack freedom of religion, that is unless you're a white christian. [andrewgoutman.com]

lerlo Level 8 Dec 24, 2018
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I’m inclined to agree with your logic.

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It's possible Mueller has enough to take them both out and then we have a Pelos presidency.

That's just too much to wish for.

@Dave75 Robert Reich has some thoughts on the matter: [readersupportednews.org]

@UrsiMajor What Reich was told is a plausible possibility.

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Trump should stay on until the Democrats find a classical liberal candidate who rejects regressive leftism and identity politics.

What is regressive leftism?

@Sofabeast
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@PBuck0145 Cheers, I'll give it a looking at later

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Honestly, at this point I'd take a Pence with whom I completely disagree over an insane man. Having an insane person as PROTUS is dangerous for everyone at every moment.

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You are right. If you do what you have always done then don’t get upset that nothing has changed. Time to vote for Jill.

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I don't like Pence at all, ok? I don't think anyone likes him outside of the donor class. They rode his ass out of Indiana on a rail, and used him to buy the evangelical vote for Mr. Porn Star Stabber. Now we may find out otherwise, but I believe the talking yam is an actual Russian asset deliberately undermining democracy at the behest of a dictator who has him completely compromised financially. I think Pence follows along, but I'm not convinced he's a complete Da Comrade Putinite, and I may be wrong. However, given my level of apprehension at having the CoC fulfilling the role of a foreign agent, I'd reluctantly pick a Pence weakened by the previous administration's scandals and still facing a democratically controlled House. I doubt he'll get a free pass, and I also doubt he'd be an effective agent for the Russkies if it came to that. Maybe yeah, maybe no, but I want the orange wankstain out. So you might be wrong.

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My pyramid starts with a man/woman and child. Then it moves on down to people of service and love. As this pyramid hits the very bottom, beneath the leaches, fungus and parasites. Then politics, military and Religion all emerges together, worst than morlocks. Everyone is welcome to their elusions.

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Bring on President Pelosi......

Are you f**king nuts?

@commander42 Oh jeez, you should get someone to pull that stick out of your ass and get a sense of humor.....

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Your absolutely right. I wish they hurry up an impeach the bastard.

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If Trump goes, I think Pence will as well. He is definitely complicit in the collusion and in the obstructing justice charges that are sure to come, I hope.

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I feel that Pence would be worse because he does know how to play the game.
His agenda is scarier because he believes he will go to for heaven for the shit he wants to do

It doesn’t matter... TRUMP is as bad as we have ever had and we can not let him get away with it for fear of Pence... deal with Pence when and if that happens. To do anything else is to allow trump to hold you hostage... screw that... Just pick them off as they raise their heads... Democrats are in play now and the Republican agenda will be kept at bay.

Pence does anything (at least on the surface) for the glory of god and NOT for the benefit of the country and it's citizens, and fully believes that god has appointed him to to do just that. Just my opinion.

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