Trump and his followers make the critical error that a "wall" will stop immigrants from coming in and asking for asylum. It will not. Nor will it stop very many who simply want a "better life" here. And the $5.6 billion is to START building the wall, not the total expense. Nor the support and upkeep that such would still need over time.
Every large scale study of actual behavior of undocumented immigrants in terms of criminal behavior shows them to be MORE LAW ABIDING and less dangerous than full citizens. Sure there are some bad apples who come into this country to live, but statistically there are FAR MORE who are natural born citizens who "turn bad" and do terrible things.
Immigrants are simply NOT the major forces in our crime and drug concerns.
OF COURSE we need better "border security," but a "wall" is old technology and simplistic thinking to be even generous in describing. How has the wall between areas of Israel and the Palestinian area worked? Answer there are tunnels under that too. How did the "Berlin Wall" keep the determined citizens of East Germany restrained within? How did the Great Wall of China end up protecting that from armed invaders? How did the many, many "walled castles" hold up across Europe? Walls do not have a successful history of effectiveness.
We NEED better security for sure, but through more modern technology and patrols. And we still need, many of us believe, a certain welcoming to those who want to come here, for the right reasons, even just to live a better life, as the Statue of Liberty offers.
MANY OF US ARE THE GENERATIONAL OFFSPRING OF UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS; and those aliens came here often with the intent of genocide toward the legitimate natives who populated this land.
We still have the capacity to be welcoming to those who wish to come, work, and live here toward their own betterment and the betterment of the whole country.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I’m one of those legal aliens that came to America who now resides in a border state. This is a manufactured crisis by a president that is desperately trying to distract from his imploding administration. He can only do that by trying to hold on to the support of his base.
Green_eyes
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Jan 12, 2019
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Of course a wall won't work, but it would be labor intensive and expensive and therefore qualifies as sound Keynesian economics. A northern wall would be even better. The other option would be to pay thousands of people to dig a giant hole and then hire thousands of others to fill it in. Trumps wall kind of makes sense as a public jobs program for the US and a jobs program in Mexico as well, they could hire hundreds of people to dig tunnels.
Seminarian
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Jan 12, 2019
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i agree wholeheartedly with everything except the penultimate paragragh. i think most of us are the generational offspring of immigrants (not aliens, which is not the basis for my disagreement but i thought i'd mention it) who were either documented or undocumented but at any rate did NOT come here with the intent of genocide. by this i mean most of us are not descended from the early settlers who slaughtered the indians or allowed others to do it for them. i think more of us came later, perhaps escaping genocide. i know my grandparents came over as children, with their parents, or with one parent, to escape pogroms in ukraine. they were documented to the extent that this was possible in their time; that is, they came over, went through proper channels (fortunately before the quota system was put in place for jews entering the u.s.) and became citizens. that was possible then. today they'd be tear-gassed, or detained; perhaps my grandparents would have died in detention. then i would not be typing this.
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genessa
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Jan 12, 2019
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Good "correction" for the later immigrants...who were still also "aliens." I had to get an "alien identification card" when I lived in England for a year as a Fulbright Professor, by the way.
A friend recently remarked that if tRump gets elected in 2020 she will seriously think of getting out. Maybe this will will be another "Berlin Wall" and be there to keep us in!
JackPedigo
Level 9
Jan 12, 2019
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Drumpf cares about none of this. He seeks to divide the country, period.
CallMeDave
Level 8
Jan 12, 2019
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The country has always been divided and will most likely always be so. I think it is pretty clear that he has succeeded in bringing it front and center and to it's extreme.
trump is doing to this Country what Putin couldn't. Putin wants to destroy the U.S. and any influence we have over our allies. This is why trump has been a horses ass toward all of our allies. I believe trump is a Putin puppet who owes Putin a lot of money.
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