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Read 'em and weep, folks. Read 'em and weep.

[factsmaps.com]

evidentialist 8 Mar 10
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UK... 499.7! So close and yet so far...

Iceland surprises me.

It's ATTITUDE to learning that matters - and quality of teaching and daily life. When a country has TV presenters who cannot speak English correctly, for example, what effect does that have on children who are told what they write is bad grammar? They assume the TV presenter (or celebrity being interviewed, etc.) is correct, the teacher is wrong, and this spills over into ALL schooling.
It becomes "cool" to pay scant regard to education.

@Petter I find validly in both the proscriptive and descriptive view on language. Though, I mostly have to agree. It’s often better to know how language is supposed to be used and practice it that way, especially in a professional/career situation.

I am unsure what these two replies have to do with my comment; I was simply remarking in a light hearted manner on the fact that the UK is a mere whisker away from being in the higher group...

@Cassiopeia -- If it will help, I understood you.

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USA! USA! We’re number thirty one! USA!

MAGA...!

@evidentialist Make America Green Again

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So looking at this again, I’m curious what these scores even are. Without knowing a maximum score (I’ll assume zero is the minimum) the numbers are somewhat meaningless and arbitrary. The green, yellow and red categories also lose some meaning.

The higher the maximum score, the smaller the differences become. Now this may be all out of whack. After all, I’m from one of the yellow countries, so...

So, enlighten yourself.

[en.wikipedia.org]

@evidentialist Other than being scaled by 500 and having a standard deviation of 100, I could not really understand what the scoring algorithm is. Can you help?

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Thusly we need IMMIGRANTS to fill the 6 million jobs no one left unemployed can qualify for.

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Better than I expected!

Problem is that we keep slipping down the list. Not a good trend.

@evidentialist I'm kinda old and out of touch, so all I see with young people these days is cell phone and social media obsession along with some expectation that they're all going to become billionaires by posting stupid shit on Twitter or Instagram. So I'm not surprised that their STEM ratings are mediocre and probably getting worse. Only hope is that we get a good change in leadership and start emphasizing science and technology over religion and popularity.

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The data indicates the correlation between intelligence and income is weak and that there is almost no correlation between intelligence and wealth. [thesocietypages.org]

Intelligence is not being measured here.

[en.wikipedia.org]

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Couldn’t figure out where these numbers come from. If self reported, you are just showing how much grade inflation each country allows. If not, what were the sample sizes?

[en.wikipedia.org]

@evidentialist thanks for the link. The methodology seems pretty sound. Sample sizes of 500 per entity should give pretty stable estimates, which idea is born out by the reproducibility of the results. It is difficult to asses the reprentativeness of the sample, but that problem is common to all surveys. We really do need to think about these results.

@Detritus -- I suspect, but do not know, that samples are random across a broad spectrum. At least, I would hope so.

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I hate to say it, but there are a lot of lazy Americans. Not dumb, even only mildly so, but don't have much of a work ethic in their education. Not all, of course, but far too many...

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Sad for America...and with so much money to spend elsewhere!

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I was very lucky to have a plethora of scientists, engineers & musicians in my extended family during my formative years. Also some really great teacher's in my early years of education. I am glad that I am well informed in these areas because of them.

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How many times do we need to get this same old rhetoric and yet we get people from all over the world flying in 24/7, plus all other ports of entry receiving a mind boggling number of legal immigrants....let alone the thousands trying to sneak in every day illegaly...... We must have been doing something right day in day out consistently for over 200 years.

@OwlInASack boy did I say rhetoric??

@IamNobody -- Flywheel effect.

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