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What does everyone think of the Satanic Temple being granted tax exemption as a church recently?

O_ophelia 5 Apr 25
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Personally, I think its hilarious and I hope that its making other church officials walk around with puckered b-holes, but I am rather jaded in general, I suppose.

I always love it when I see someone stick it to smug, arrogant assholes, be they Christian, Atheists, or politicians that fit that description, they're all the same to me.

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Its hilarious. The other righteous ones are going to have an apoplexy.

Yes! Also, thanks for the new vocabulary, I'm going to use that soon !

@O_ophelia I had to look that one up too!

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As long as churches are granted tax-exempt status, why shouldn't the ST have it, too?
Personally, I dig that they're beating the christians at their own game.
If they get to do that and be tax-exempt while they're doing it, I'm not going to complain.

I don't think any church should be tax-exempt, but that's where we are.

I agree! And I love that every time there is some push to have a Christian statue or placement in a public building, the ST retaliates with a statue or placement of their own. This just means there will be even more of that coming in the future, which is just great

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Taxes are stupid, and taxes are theft.

Also religions are stupid no matter which superstition you choose.

SCal Level 7 Apr 26, 2019

No, I think you missquoted Marx there.It's "property is theft"

@Moravian

The defenition of tax and theft are the same.

I only quote Marx when discussing ideas that don't work.

@BryanLV Spoken like a true son of the land of the free.

@BryanLV Money is not yours,it is created by and for governance. Without tax you would look pretty stupid trying to get to work with no roads. Without tax we would all be stupid without education; without defence; without representation; without sewers; street lighting; public health; need i go on? Ask what have the Romans ever done for us and how did they achieve it ?......dumarse.

@Moravian

If you think this land is free, I have a bridge to sell you.

@chazwin

There was no income tax before 1913, and im pretty sure there were roads, public health, street lights and education.

Everything the Romans had was stolen from other cultures, so the Romans got theirs the same way, theft.

Educated by a dumarse? That makes you dummer than a dumarse, dumb ass.

@chazwin

Money is not created by governance you know-nothing. Money and currency are not the same.

Strike two. Would you like to keep swinging and missing, genius? Id suggest you go back to bootlicking.

@Moravian Not Karl. Proudhon.

@BryanLV I said land of the free you know "home of the brave and land of the free". Is this London bridge you are trying to sell. The one sold by some London spivs to gullible Americans who thought they were buying Tower bridge ?

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It's the same religion. Just like Zeus and Hades are of the same religion in Greek mythology. I love pointing that out to them.

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A deity is a deity, just the other end of the spectrum thats all. Enough people felt the same way and got together as a community and began to worship a being they say is a higher power. The first amendment says that the government can't put one religion above the rest and if the judge had said no, he would have put satanism below the rest, which he can't do. So a religion it is.

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I am going to combine two of the previous comments.

Religious organizations should pay tax. Because of this, I think they should pay tax. But, since all the others don't, I am glad to see they are not. Aybe it will help make a change.

Personally, I don't understand why any organization which actively discriminates against women, gays, familia status, etc... Should be allowed tax exempt status.

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If you are going to take the idiotic step to exempt a specific class of business, then it follows logically to exempt all examples of that class. I would much rather ALL religions pay corporation and sales taxes for their activities.

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I see it this way, the Christian Bible says" Want of money is the root of all evil". And all of us in America are well aware of how what most Americans really worship, is money, rather than God. Hence, if what most Americans actually worship is something the Bible says is evil, why shouldn't a Satanic church while openly worships evil not get the same tax breaks as Christian churches? Some twisted irony going on with this, but that's how I think and roll........

Satanic Temple doesn't worship evil. They are an atheist group that uses satan as a symbol of rebellion against christianity.

@bootaski Fine. I still enjoy the irony.

@bootaski Christian Bible says Money is the root of all evil.

Almost.

Instead, it says the want of money is the root of all evil. It suggests once you got enough, you won't want any more money. It's the goal to be a future lay about that makes us pursue money.

Drop a million dollars in my bank account and you won't see me at the salt mine.

To me one of the great jokes is a person who wins the lottery and says "I'm gonna keep working."

@WonderWartHog99 Most people who win the lottery end up where they started or even worse off after a few years because they make lifestyle changes they can't keep up with once they have depleted all their cash reserves.

@WonderWartHog99 I stand corrected, thank you.

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It is a valid point to show how absurd is tax exemption for churches, showing that religion can be something so random and arbitrary.

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I think what they're doing and the statements they're making are good, but I personally wouldn't join their group. Even though their goal is to object to christianity, they're using a figure from the christian pantheon to organize their beliefs around. Using satan as their symbol brings too much christian baggage. I would rather just forget about everything associated with christianity and start from scratch.

Thus the flying spaghetti monster, Join the pastafarianism

Satan is not prominently featured in the babble, it is a construct of preachers to instill fear.

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I think they may have a hand in finally getting religion out of the government

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They're no different than any religious organization. Madness for money.

Unity Level 7 Apr 26, 2019
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If it moves the religious to look at themselves then it is a good thing. If not, then it just shows the stupidity of giving tax breaks for a certain group. A win-win in my book.

BillF Level 7 Apr 26, 2019
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If their goal for doing that is to have churches no longer receive tax exemptions, then I'm all for it. However, if their goal was to just not pay taxes, then they suck.

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If they're going to exempt Jesus worshipers, they should also exempt Satan worshipers!

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The Satanic Temple should not be taxed. If worshiping the lawd is tax free... Worshiping his bad little friend should also be tax free.

Personally I think all churches should be double taxed!

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I think that they fit the legal definition of a church.

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It gives them standing for lawsuits.

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Love the ST. If one was near me I would consider attending. Here a link to their tenets. No devil worshiping here.

You must look more closely. He is in the details ... 😈

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They are as valid a church as any other so should get the same tax relief - but all churches should pay tax, making the debate irrelevant

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Well the Mormon churches are tax-exempt. I don't see very much difference.

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I've wanted to build a flying spaghetti monster shrine on my front porch open to travelers and claim exempt from real estate taxes as a religious organization.

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I'd like to know why churches of any kind are tax exempt. What's the thinking behind it; "You preach faith in fairytales so no taxes for you." What's the justification for such a privileged status?

The actual justification is the money given to the church has already been taxed as income once.

@sewchick57 Is that how the IRS views it? That doesn't hold up as a rational justification at all. Money from pretty much everywhere to everyone has passed through many hands over the course of years before it landed in yours or mine. Taxes were already paid on it by everyone who's ever made it. It arrives in the church coffers as new and untaxed income the same as it does for us. The only difference is the chuech doesn't have to pay the taxes an it but we do.

The IRS considers churches charities.

@sewchick57 So are all my other expenses. When I go to a bar and get a martini I pay with monies from my taxed income.

@MichaelBaribeau UGH! How can they see it that way? Charities are typically non-profit organizations. Many religious endeavors, especially the catholics and Xian televangelists, are profit making. Hell, the Vatican has its own bank with many billions of dollars in it at all times.

@zesty Tax laws and the reasons for them can go back several decades.

@Sgt_Spanky "...the Catholic Church has immense wealth…but also has immense liabilities and obligations. It doesn’t sit on its money." On a church by church level oversight is provided by the congregation. There are also many Catholic charity organizations as well as hospitals, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, disaster relief, etc. The Vatican has a relatively small budget most going to employees, museum, etc. The Vatican Bank (IOC) handles billions but I don't know what if any profit they make although most of their wealth is in real estate dating back millenia. Although a lot of the money from the big televangelists churches go to charities they don't have the same congregational oversite so there are calls for reform.

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They have as much right to tax exemption as any other church, which none of them should.

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