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Hello single, non-custodial parents! My very sweet boyfriend is needing some advice on seeing his son for the first time in about a year. He's feeling a bit too raw to post himself so he asked me to. He is a member of Agnostic though, so he can read all your good advice.

There are a few extra challenges here. First of all, his ex wife is moderately mentally ill & smokes pot about 24/7. She has been coaching their son on how "bad" his dad is since probably before the split. She also prevented them from even talking on the phone during this year, & she moved out of state. He was never abusive or anything that would warrant her doing this. She, on the other hand, has threatened in the past to jump off a tall bridge with their son, a threat that the police & CPS took seriously I might mention.

The other tricky part of this is that his 8 year old son is autistic although he speaks, smiles & interacts with people. He is also very intelligent.

So finally this poor man has a chance to see & speak to his little boy for the first time in a year....What on earth can he or should he say to him? What is the child's reaction to seeing him likely to be? I should add that the last time he saw his dad it was during a huge ugly fight with mom, & dad left willingly to avoid more of that. He had no idea that would be his son's last memory of him....

Kind advice only, please--believe me this has been a year of soul searching & anguish enough already.

Carin 8 May 6
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Your husband sounds like a great guy and so this will come as natural to him as eating. Just keep the conversation focused on the son e.g., what are you into?, how have you been?, how's school?, what books or movies do you like? and so on. I wouldn't bring up anything about myself or how I've been feeling not being allowed to visit or any of that emotional baggage stuff. If the child brings up something negative - I would steer the conversation away by saying "We can talk about that at another time but right now it's all about you and I'm eager to learn all about you". You get a kid to talk about themselves particularly about things they enjoy the most and the walls will come down. Here's the benefit - without conveying any kind of sentiment - the kid will get it - he/she will understand that you care about them by setting aside a window of time where it's all about them. I wasn't allowed to meet my real mother until I was 11 and I had to find her on top of that because my family wasn't telling me the truth. After a visit was arranged my first words to her were "I hope that you don't expect me to call you mom". She handled it with total class and it broke down my defenses. I suggest the same for your husband and I suspect that he'll do quite well.

Thanks for the personal story & I'm glad things worked out for you!

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Some of you may remember me from last summer as angry and bitter with a bunch of emotional issues. what Carin has told you is just scratching the surface. I"m currently on my way to Colorado Springs for divorce court on Wednesday. It's 1300 miles one way. hopefully the judge will order my soon to be ex to let me see my son. I appreciate all the kind words and advice. thank you all.

Love those pictures! I can't wait to meet him!

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Carin Level 8 May 6, 2019
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It sounds crass, but I'd look at this like a rescue dog... maybe scared/scarred/incredibly shy, or even terrified. Key advice might be letting him make the first move, lots of personal space, very careful with the neutral body language (a smile and fast happy movements, may seem like aggression.).

People sometimes get after me for discussing children in the same way as pets but there are similarities!

And I know his dad will not be offended at your choice of words. He's planning on looking in here later tonight when he gets to the hotel. I think everyone's kind words will really help him.

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I have to wonder why, the father doesn't have custody. If the ex wife is threatening to jump from a bridge, with the child, that would be enough for me. BTW, I am the father of a 20 year old on the spectrum, my advice take it slow, and do not say anything negative about his mom. Bring a few games with you, take him to the zoo, just get some one on one time with him. Good luck

That incident was several years ago, while they were still together but he was out of state. A fun activity is a great idea!

CPS only returned the boy once his dad got home.

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Based on what you have said here, I would expect the boy to be fearful and perhaps even hostile.

I would urge you very strongly to NOT lose your temper or show irritation no matter what transpires.

If you played any board games or video games in the past, perhaps bring them so that there is not as much discomfort from just sitting there and trying to force conversation.

As for what to say initially; "hi, I've missed you" may work

@Lucy_Fehr Yes, I think keeping it simple is the best too.

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So many factors involved in this. Very good of you to be so supportive.

I know next to nothing about autism, but maybe starting with, "I want you to know I love you," and then sitting quietly and following the boy's lead. The non-verbal communication of a smile might go a long way. I'm also wondering if asking for a hug (edited to add "or a fist bump" ), if the boy wanted to, would be appropriate. No pressure, but rather just mention it to him how good it would make his father feel and leave it at that. Maybe just the request itself would mean something, particularly by establishing up front the boy's autonomy regarding that action.

I'm thinking there's no magic combination of words in this situation.

Oh and btw just to make clear, this advice comes from someone with no kids.

My youngest grandchild doesn't like hugs so we fist bump instead.

@Lucy_Fehr

Perfect! I'm a fist bump man myself. I think it must be my simian heritage.😄

@Lucy_Fehr I love how the kids get to make the pick here.

@WilliamCharles That is a great little video!

@Carin I thought so too. The hand shakers look like little business sophisticates, the fist bumpers and high fivers seem to love the playfulness, and all of those choosing a hug look like they really appreciate that simple act of them each getting to show their love for the other. I laughed at that one little girl practically throwing herself at the teacher, and felt so good for the shy looking girl at the very end.

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