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if your mother was on her deathbed and she begged you to pray with her.
would you do it, would you accept Christ as your personal savior so that she could be comforted in her last moments of life?

m16566 7 May 18
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Oh hell no.

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Of course. Love exists regardless of world view. I Don need god to love and take care of my aging mother.

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Definitely not, because I believe that soon after death we see the truth. There is not death, just energy.

Why do you believe that, as a skeptic I'm always looking for evidence.
it is logical that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
I have no reason to believe that when the brain dies, everything connected with it dies, and death is in Oblivion

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If I really thought it would bring her comfort, I might. However, I think she is secretly tormented by "God's judgement" after she dies. Presently, I think it would bring her more comfort if I were to insist there will be no such thing.

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Absolutely. As long as she believes I'm sincere about it is all that matters. I would make out a list to Santa Claus if it gave her peace on her death bed.

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No. My mother would never ask me to do that for her! Love my mom!

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My mother became an atheist in nursing school.

"I realized a woman cannot turn into salt," Mom said dryly. She was hilarious!

The answer to your questions is NO WAY.

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My mother assumes I'm still a christain. I will leave her that impression. So, she could die in peace.

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that would have killed my mom. we're jewish.

but pretending to pray with someone dying, someone you love, and actually accepting a nonexistent christ into your heart are not the same thing. how would anyone even know what was in your heart? you could be on your knees and saying to yourself, "i am not praying but i am on my knees to make my mother happy, and she will die peacefully because of this pose, and it hurts no one, including me." my mom on her deathbed said she thought she would be joining my dad in heaven. do you think i said "gee mom i'm sorry you're dying but guess what? there's no heaven!" i said no such thing and i did not feel like a hypocrite for not correcting her. you only die once.

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That's certainly not accepting and respecting that your son or daughter have their own walk and choices in life they're "at peace with". That would certainly break someone at their mother's deathbed. Like your mom "putting you in a corner" even on her deathbed! It's like being choked while still breathing. They have nurtured you, loved you and protected you, but unfortunately subtly still have that iron hand which is cruel. My mother once told me, "if you don't marry this person, don't come see my face in my coffin when I die". Yes! she did, and I obeyed, even though I went through so much pain, and regardless of the abuse I faced, which she was aware of, staying in this relationship, would bring "no shame to her name". I got out if it eventually and we (my mother and I) became estranged (I distanced myself) for many many year's. I couldn't understand how your own mother could be this cruel!
Even on someone's deathbed, remain true to who you are, you'd probably regret that you perhaps "didn't please her" before she died, but I don't beat yourself up for being you. You're not guilty for not "obeying" someone trying to "save you" when you're already free and safe. No mother should put a child in that situation.

I think a lie told for the greater good is excusable.
clearly mom in my scenario is wrong.
I asked what's decision causes the least pain?

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Being an actor, I could probably pull it off just for her sake. Afterward, I would probably repent by washing my mouth out with soap.

Thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

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Sounds to me like a deal made under duress. Aren't these kinds of agreements - between your mother's God and you - unenforceable; like, null and void?

How sad that mom would rather have you lie to her to feel better than to have you be honest with her.

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In that moment, why the fuck not? I know it's just talking to the wind, but it would make her happy.

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No. No I wouldn't.

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Of course! What's life? Put a smile on her face and let her heart rest in peace .

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No of course not. How controlling of her. What a lousy relationship she had with her child.

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I would lie to her. The same way I'd bend the truth for a dying child or someone who just stepped on a mine and blew his legs off.

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The one and only time I heard my Mum swear was when she was dying. She told a vicar to piss off when he asked her if he could pray with her. I seriously couldn't imagine that. My Mum would never have asked me to lie to her. Saying that, if it were someone else yeah why not? Little white lies don't hurt anyone.

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Never. Never. Never.

Let's just reverse this a minute and a dying Atheist mother insisted her child renounce their god.

Yeah. That's not going to happen.

Atheists are not insane.

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My mother remained her abusive, histrionic, narcissistic self on her deathbed. Her actual last words were abuse, hurled at me.
But I would not have prayed etc. Had she asked, I’d have found someone to pray with her while I went out of the room.

You deserved a better Mum

Precisely why reply was "No chance," because I suffered for years under an abusive, nasty, cruel vicious thing that called itself my 'mother.'

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I would pretend. I had to bow my head many times to give thanks to the sky Daddy. Can't hurt anything to play with somebody's imaginary friend for a little while.

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Of course, send her off in peace. It's a rare thing now a days that used to be called common sense

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I'd tell her I had done it, I would close my eyes while she prayed, etc.
It is too late for her to see sense, and she is terminally ill, so at this point what is the harm in indulging her fantasy.
I sang along at my mothers funeral to avoid upsetting my father and causing a scene.
If the inquisition came back and it was renounce atheism or be tortured I would say so, it would mean nothing and leave me alive and well to undermine from the inside.
It's a bloody stupid thought experiment, but that is my answer.

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