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I am playing around with a subject for an upcoming video. I would like to know how you would answer the question. What is a personal relationship with God/Jesus really and what would you compare it to? I may use your thoughts in my next video! Thank you fo your help!

DavidLaDeau 8 June 9
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I remember reading the Amityville Horror back in the 80's. One of the children in the story had a 'special friend', Jodi, that only she could see or communicate with. I imagine this personal relationship would have all the creepiness without the physical manifestations.

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Pain God for all the wonderful things he does not

bobwjr Level 10 June 10, 2019
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you're asking atheists this?

a personal relationship with god is like... wait, it's hard to type with this strait-jacket on.

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Well said!

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I don't think it is possible to have any kind of relationship with something that is invisible and imaginary, personal or otherwise.

I agree, the problem here is that people actively, consciously delude themselves into BELIEVING that they can have a relationship with something that does not exist.

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I compare it to my relationship with Santa, minus the bonus of getting presents.

1of5 Level 8 June 9, 2019
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The less time you spend with this subject, the better your life and life of others will be. God is not useful for anything.

I have the internal need to help others escape it. So it is very important that I am aboe to approach subjects like this in a way that helps the to think rather than "just believe."

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I don’t know.

That is a great answer. I often run into Christians that ALWAYS have to have an answer. They simply can not accept that they do not know and thus will not accept honesty from others.

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I don't see how anyone can claim to have a "relationship" with god. They describe this "relationship" as god giving them what they need (even though they are the one at work earning money to pay for all the stuff they thank god for) And they pray, sing songs to and about god, talk about god, and read his book. ... Okay. If I were to treat another human that way, read a book they wrote or about them, sing songs about or to this person and thanked them for all the stuff I bought with money I earned while working. ... Well, folks would call me crazy. and say "That is not a relationship!"

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To me a personal relationship with God is a reason not to have to define the relationship and the only working definition anyone can have If it was anything else, there would be a way for others to share it and there's no indication that is possible.

redbai Level 8 June 10, 2019

Very true!

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I feel bad for those people. They're solving there own problems. The ones they ask for help through prayer. They find solutions. But instead of giving themselves credit, they thank god. They cheat themselves.

Good things happen God
Bad things happen you suck!

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Most individuals who are sane cannot have a relationship with any thing they have never seen, touched, or have personal first hand provable knowledge of!

I find it amazing you can have a relationship with something you have never seen, touched, or actual factual proof of!

Faith is an oxymoron!

The Germans who followed the National socialist Workers Party had faith beyond self and religious beliefs! Hence faith has many faces from Fascism to god(s), their offspring and the faith in mankind!

So having a relationship with a any thing you have never had or experience first hand is faith!

A relationship that in reality has no real basis in fact or truth!

Hence faith like Fascism, religion, and death does not have a true reason to exist, it just does!

If only we could have faith without religion and political influence could we as a species be human?

Very few people see the connection between Fascism and Religion. I made a satire video about it. Watch it to the end. I KNOW you will enjoy it!

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ROFLMAO...this is sarcasm, right?

No it is not. I will soon be postimg my video. It will discuss how this very subject led to a suicide attempt at 14 years old. Not funny at all.

@DavidLaDeau I think you may be on the wrong site.

  1. A religious site definitely needed
  2. Help Line or maybe Pity Party, or both
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unlike most other mammals we have a very long childhood.
due to this we expect that there are powerful controlling beings that will provide for our every need. of course is our parents, as we get older we realize that our parents are flawed people like ourselves. the need is great the god-shaped vacuum is there, so we create a all powerful parent without human frailties. we can assign the attributes to the God as we see fit. the Roman assigned to their gods based on the values of their society.
the Jews and Hindus selected gods with attributes that reflected their society.
clearly if horses had a god it would look like them and reflect the values of their society.
knowing this does not free us from the god-shaped vacuum, it's still there.
it is my belief we will fill it with something, science, or The voices in your head.

m16566 Level 7 June 10, 2019
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Me and God play games.. fucker idiot he always loses the game but wins the crowd.
Ah well.. I guess the crowd prefere idiots

Neenz Level 7 June 10, 2019
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Very interesting question! I was raised in the church. This was a popular topic - having a personal relationship with God or Jesus, and feeling the holy spirit. I tried, boy how I tried. It was fully expected of me as a PK. However, NEVER did I ever once feel like there was a god or his son or his spirit around me, helping me, or protecting me from a goddamn thing. My father was a minister who said "goddamn", which was very confusing for a child. He beat his wife and kids. Where was god then? When I divorced, 2000 people at Aloma United Methodist Church turned their backs on me, even though the choir director also got divorced. But they loved me singing in the contatas, building the courtyard, volunteering on the building committee (coz I'm an engineer), etc. My girlfriend killed herself in 2011 and while at that time I was already seriously questioning the existence of a god, I used to do what I called my "grief walk" up and down my street ( it's secluded so nobody saw me). I would look up in the sky and beg for relief from the pain of losing the woman I was in love with. Nothing. I claim to be agnostic because I can't prove there's not a god. Although, I have seen two UFOs! When Jesus stops by and puts my fingers in the hole in his palm, I'll believe again. Not holding my breath.

First I'm very sorry for your loss. That must still hurt very bad.
Second, That is a very stylish t-shirt there!
Third, I was involved in a young earth creationist, fundamentalist, cult. Called The First United Methodist Church. Normally they are considered moderate but these guys indoctrinated me to be an extremest, Inerrant, wacko!

Luckily, I grew out of It. Much of the idea of my video centers around how everyone in church talked about their personal relationship with god and how Jesus told them this and that. It was expected from everyone. I did not know what they were talking about.When I asked they basically told me I was flawed, in sin, or not believing enough. I as a child, would stay up all night just trying to believe enough for Jesus to love me. IT WAS CHILD ABUSE!

@DavidLaDeau Thank you. It does still hurt and probably always will.
Even worse is my family's completely inadequate response to my grief. I guess because we weren't together very long they think it doesn't matter very much. That and other horrible things they've done have left me an orphan of sorts. I don't speak to any of them anymore. My bible-thumping southern baptist brother says these bad things have happened to me because I've turned away from god. What a joke! If there is a god, he's a total prick! ✌

@Stilltrying1964 Iv'e noticed that just as many bad things happen to Bible thumpers, only its god "testing" them. Really God does not know? If its for the sake of learning could an all powerful god not teach in a positive way? They demean their won God.

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Delusional thinking bordering on psychosis. Basically it's when someone has bullshitted themselves into being able to release dopamine, serotonin, and oxytocin through very specific stimuli in such quantities that produce a distinct chemical high that is percieved as a "spiritual experience", much in the same way that LSD or Psilocybin would, but to a much lesser (usually) extent.

Yep, thats basically it in a nut shell.

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