Teachers + guns. I think it's a shit idea. What do you think?
We use guns to protect us from bad guys. Used properly guns are great. Some are so simple minded - "guns bad" I suppose fire is bad too if its misused, maybe we should get rid of gasoline - it might explode and burn or kill you.
Its the use or misuse that makes something good or bad - teachers and admins are generally very responsible - I would trust them to not misuse their weapons.
only an american could have come up with that one
A teacher with a handgun would be out gunned by a shooter with an AR15. The effective range of a handgun is probably 30 feet. But the effective range of an AR15 is probably 300 yards. A shooter with an AR15 facing a shooter with a handgun down a long school corridor would not be a fair fight. The handgun would probably miss the target, may hit an innocent bystander, and would soon run out of bullets and need to reload. The AR15 would have the accuracy at long range, have more shots, the ability to reload more quickly, and a much higher rate of fire.
It's totally off the beam of intelligence! Can you imagine a single teacher, adrenaline pumping, unlocking the gun cabinet and preparing to shoot someone who is obviously well-versed with automatic weapons? What do you think the police would assume....coming into a classroom and seeing a teacher (let ALONE a black teacher) holding a gun while children cower under their desks? This is a ridiculous attempt by trumplegroper to pass off the blame for NRA's purchase of Congress members!
Well, we have done an excellent job of training police officers to make fast and accurate judgment calls about firing their weapons in high pressure situations, so why not teachers, too? Oh, wait...
There are SOOO many problems with this idea.
I think that if a teacher is available that has a carry permit volinteers to quietly carry at school with no official uproar about it and keeps his/her mouth shut that person might save a lot of lives including their own!!! I am fairly sure that there are at least a few people in schools that do carry for personal protection.
That wouldn’t work in any of the three school districts I recently worked in… My neighbor, a HS teacher with her concealed weapon permit, could not have her gun on campus, even locked in her macho truck.. That’s worse than band-aid stuff ..and nowhere near what needs to be done… Ban & confiscate the weapons, beginning with the most recent pieces.
you lot are balmy. MELT THE F___ING GUNS . ALL OF THEM
Somewhere I read, in a shoot out, police only hit their targets about 18% of the time. I teach and have a CPL but don't want to take a gun to school. Too many things to go wrong. My gun could be taken off me, I could mistake the target, the incoming law enforcement could mistake ME for the target. Listening to NPR, I heard a POC mention their fears about being mistaken for a shooter. Bad idea. So is making our schools into prisons.
An AR brings that % way up. I think only very well train people with courage should be armed to protect our children. I know you teachers are brave, but I don't think you can be a teacher and an armed protector at the same time. I am trained for conceal carry, but would not want to go up against America's best. This concept would give our Honorably Discharged Veterans a potential job, that could be partially funded by the military.
I think you have to take into account ALL gun deaths. Not those just from mass shootings.
So taking into account accidental gun death rates, even if you mitigated mass shootings (which I don’t think the data is there to prove that case), you would still have a higher death toll due to gun accidents with children being in the vicinity of guns.
Then take into account an increased suicide due to guns being in the hands of more adults and the death count goes even higher.
More suicides are completed with guns than by any other means. It being such an effective and final means makes it the most deadly.
Fuck it just give every human over 4 a machine gun incase the teachers turn crazy.
Desperate, and sick. The US gun lobby is a powerful animal, though. Backed by gun worshipers attempting to reenact a ‘wild west’ mentally using tactical arms inconceivable by Our Founders; and having stockpiled them for decades … they’re itchen for a fight.
Freshly familiar with public schools in the USA, it’s as sick an idea as I’ve yet to hear. My mind drifted a lot in school … like placing the map of continents ‘together’ like a puzzle before Continental Drift was acknowledged by our religious/ political leaders… Now what - forming their opinion of humanity or community while staring at a sidearm? ...and linking the aspirations of teachers, often the most humanitarian members of the community, to carrying guns..?
...you’ve got me started, which isn’t all that difficult.. And I can imagine the responses of our resident gun worshipers, but we’ve a Constitution in need of amending - and a body count to prove it. The blood is on their trigger fingers… No guns in schools - and a permanent ban and confiscation/ buyback of any of the family of weapons having been used in the now countless massacres within our nation - period
[and if you’re a Russian worm looking to rile our masses, too late]
I think this country is going crazy.
Short trip.
I believe it's a really bad idea 1.) because the school boards have already cut so many budgets and now all of a sudden there's money to give all faculty members a glock??? Really?? and 2.) Who's to say the teacher would not turn it against one of the students, I know for a fact that one of th teachers that used to work at my old high school was terrified of any student that was even close to his height, why would you arm someone who's initial response is to try to deflect/defend himself against a student walking over to his desk
Just about everyone had seen a teacher completely
loose their shit. I wouldn’t want them to be armed when that happened.
I have a concealed carry licence. The worst case senereo that I can think of is to be a teacher,, and carry in a school. I would hate to be disarmed by a couple of very powerfull students! Teachers have to build rapport with the students, and a gun wouldn't help develope that kind of relationship. I think that the honorably discharged vets in unform would be a much better choice for gaurdng schools. They would be off limits to the student population. They would be there for one purpose only, and that is to keep the campus safe.
This ia something I hadn't heard before and a great point. Rowdy kids trying to get the gun.
My son is in college studying to be a music teacher. He said “how am I supposed to connect with students if I’m carrying a gun?”
@Briskovich Ya and a teacher shouldn't have to treat the kid as the enemy!
All principals should carry, maybe some of the coaches too.
Why them? Curious.
you've lost your minds