I just watched an old Neal Degrasse Tyson speech and was kinda blown away. I usually learn something from his talks, but to the significance of the negative impact on human advancement because of religion is staggering.
We have all hear heard how the catholic and other churches tried to suppress science through the the years. Position of the earth, shape of the earth, Darwinism, etc...
What I didn’t know was that Arab countries were leading world in science 1000 years ago. They were so far advanced that to some it seemed like magic. In fact the math as we know it today came directly from Arab countries. The numbers we use today are Arabic.
Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizm, a Muslim invented algebra.
Then along comes one of their prophets and decides that “math is the work of the devil” and bans advanced calculations. Science dies in the Middle East. Once one of the most advanced people, and they just stagnated.
Out of all the people that have won the Nobel Prize, only three are Muslim and it is a direct result of religious interference.
Can you imagine if we wouldn’t have had a nearly a 1000 year break in mathematical advancement where we could be now as a species?
The world would be a completely different place. I would like to think for the better, but I guess you never know...
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You can trace back the attack upon Atheism to the trial of Socrates as Materialism = Atheism and gawds= "morals of the youth" Socrates challenged.....science is reasoned tested doubted knowledge ....the alleged gawds were government metaphors of war and control of subordinates to the kings....same goes for the mullahs caliphs ayatollahs rapist priests and racist Vatican sending out armies and admirals to conquer all savage non-xians since 1450
GreenAtheist
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July 10, 2019
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Here's another link of interest with regards to Maths.
Arabs didn't invent. but they were responsible to spread throughout Europe.[theconversation.com]
TimeOutForMe
Level 8
July 10, 2019
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Reading the link above. It makes mention of Sumerians. Sumerian people are Tamil People (from South of India) from the first Sangam.
Sumerians also spoke Archaic Tamil
They were only the first to document it. That's where the confusion comes in.
[en.m.wikipedia.org]
TimeOutForMe
Level 8
July 10, 2019
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I'll have to check it out.
I once had a religio state that the speed of light was not necessarily constant.
This was to maintain the brain rot of a 6K year old theory.
BufftonBeotch
Level 8
July 10, 2019
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Tell them to explain how light from ,million of light years away can be seen with the naked eye.
I have seen that lecture...religion seems to be a mind game...just talk to anyone deep in it and you can see this person will throw roadblocks in his own path! Plus, he will defend his position, with memorized rhetoric and there will be very few new ways of thinking with his ideas! Their religion is like a safety net...and they have no intention of relinquishing what they have frozen in place!
Freedompath
Level 9
July 10, 2019
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Strip away religion and science always wins.
LisaCurious1
Level 1
July 9, 2019
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Between religion and misogyny, science has repeatedly dealt with monumental setbacks.
KKGator
Level 9
July 9, 2019
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Yes. I suspect we would be much more advanced . The USA is in the dark ages.
Bigwavedave
Level 8
July 9, 2019
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Can you imagine what was burned in the library in Alexandria? The destruction of knowledge started before the religion of Allah existed.
indirect76
Level 7
July 9, 2019
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Do you have a link to the talk.
JackPedigo
Level 9
July 9, 2019
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I can't find the exact one I saw, it was part of several lecture segments. But here is the same lecture, but for some reason the Muslim/Nobel thing is not it in. I did find that section in another video though. Looks like they were old, so apparently more muslims have won recently, but still not very many in comparison. (Neal's lecture starts a few minutes in.)
@Doug_in_Colorado Thanks for these links.
One of the things that separated Jews in Germany in the earlier days was the simple fact that they wanted to learn and not be influenced by many societal norms. For instance, in the universities the Jews were there to learn and did not participate in things like hazing or fraternities. Others saw this behavior as being snobby and outsiders. Another thing of importance is that one of the largest secular group in the world are cultural Jews. I don't think such a thing exists (or is even allowed) in the Moslem world.
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