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US politician from Mississippi insists on chaperone for interview with female reporter

A Republican candidate for Mississippi governor has refused to be interviewed by a female reporter unless she brings a male colleague with her.

Robert Foster said he had made a vow to his wife, Heather.

[bbc.com]

St-Sinner 9 July 11
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If he's so worried about protecting his reputation, maybe he should wear a body camera at all times. Then he could still treat other people with dignity and not come off as a self righteous douche bag.

dkp93 Level 8 July 11, 2019

How much different is a camera as compared to a chaperone of the reporter's choosing? Aside from the camera being dispassionate and unable to intervene if needed? Actually, both would probably be a good idea, but in all cases, no matter the gender identity or sexual orientation of either party.

It's kind of like my idea for police interactions with the public on police calls. It seems that cameras aren't enough, so maybe a civil rights lawyer should be witness to all interactions.

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He is a sketchy looking bastard. I'm sure in his case the female reporter is relieved that she doesn't have to be alone with him too.

JimG Level 8 July 11, 2019
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This is the type of holy rolling politician that would do everything possible to control the sex lives of every person in Mississippi by making religious laws that curtails and bans sex for any purpose other than to carry a man's seed to a full term baby even if it was rape or incest. If he can't be trusted to be alone with a woman other than his wife then he is a man you should never trust because he doesn't have the least bit of will power to resit his own primal urges as a man. I just came back from a 4th of July weekend celebration at a nudist camp. I was around at least 200 naked women and I didn't bother a one of them or do one thing out of line. Now look at this guy - he can't be in a room with a fully dressed person of the opposite sex with out going crazy with desire. He is a self proclaiming rapist that has to be watched and checked because he doesn't trust himself to treat women decently when there no one is watching or without a chaperon.

jrhere Level 5 July 11, 2019

This reminds me of the comedy sketch that VP Pence cannot even have a bottle of Mrs. Butterworths maple syrup on the table unless he is with his wife/mother. (The temptation must be strong in this one up there, too)

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He is WAY behind in the polls & until this story hit, he was not getting any media time in his race. Now, his name is out there. I'm under the impression he thinks no publicity is bad & that he's angling for the evangelical vote.

I watched the interview yesterday and I have to say that your analysis of the situation is about what I came up with watching it. The host and the reporter brought up the gay angle because he said that it would be OK for a male reporter to ride with him. The reporter was taken aback but was pretty aggressive in her stance but I understand how she would feel. After watching the interview it just seemed staged on his part and I felt that he was playing to his base just like Pence does on the same issue.

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American Taliban

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What is the matter with him? He has no self control or respect for women. It's the same,as the muslims making women cover up. No respect or self control for women.

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The only reason a man needs a chaperon with a female interviewer is if he doesn't know how to be appropriate, or if he does not trust the interviewer. I don't see this foolishness as role model material at all. It's for show.

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Another pussy whipped republican!

Who thinks that he and his wife feel is god gift to women!

LOL!😱😳🤣😩

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Maybe wifey should tag along and sit off camera to babysit him. (That marriage must have some serious trust issues.)

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I suspect he's concerned he'll be accused of being inappropriate with her ... and then the other 200 women he was inappropriate with will come forward.

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The Christian fundamentalists are hung up when it comes to sex.

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I heard his claim on the radio today and I'll translate his coded language into the way the southerners in MS hear it - He doesn't want to be sucked into the #METOO movement by the immorally vile democrats who are obliviously paying women to come forward with false claims and to put on a charade like they have done with all of the other republicans politicians and judges in history that have been accused by victims of rape and or teenage / child molestation. --- I was talking to a Southern Bell today and she said the women that claim Trump had raped them were paid by the democrats. I said all 27 of them?

jrhere Level 5 July 12, 2019
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I heard NPR's interview with the reporter. She wants to shadow him for a day, much of the time spent alone with him. In the #metoo era and the specter of false accusations, I took this actually as a wise move on his part. After reading this BBC article, I see he's not too wise, as he would let a man shadow him alone. There's no reason a man couldn't make a false accusation. Because of this he sounds more sexist than prudent. I am puzzled by the reporter's reaction and stance.

bingst Level 8 July 11, 2019

As opposed to the entire history of the world when women were accused of being crazy or lying for saying they were assaulted? Men are so very fragile they can't just learn to protect their reputation by not being a slimeball in general? Women have been forced to protect every aspect of our reputation for all of history, and are still presumed guilty if someone accuses us of something like adultery. Learn to watch your image like we have to, speak to women like they're fully formed humans, and keep your hands to yourself. Not that difficult. Being shadowed everywhere does nothing but limits a womans opportunities. See saudi arabia.

Specter of false allegations? Really? Its super simple gentleman. Keep your hands to yourself. Do not proposition and sexually harass women and you'll be fine. Powerful White men are not tge victim here y'all.

@CommonHuman I wish it was as simple as all that. But we don't live in a perfect world where people are honest when lying would ruin someone's life [ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

@OpposingOpposum I wish it was as simple as all that. But we don't live in a perfect world where people are honest when lying would ruin someone's life [ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

@Kafirah That was kind of my point. Women have been putting up with baseless accusations, and the least that happened to us was loss of reputation, and it wasn't uncommon for us to lose our lives instead. All you can do is what we have been doing for eons, do everything you can to protect your reputation because if you do get a false allegation, a spotless reputation will be your only thin defense.
On top of that, rape allegations, sexual harassment, assault allegations, all have a much much smaller incidence of false accusations than other crimes. Because all women know, the moment they open their mouths and point a finger, there will be a wave of judgment, hatred, and cruelty that will dog them. Possibly for the rest of their lives.

@CommonHuman Of course. However, that same healthy paranoia that is felt by every woman everywhere, every single minute of every day is not exclusive to women. 2-10% of men falsely accused definitely feel it too, and since several cases have been made public, despite being no where near the majority of real incidents, their high profile nature has made a lot of men wary that they too might become victims of not committing a crime also.To be honest, this new paranoia is a good thing for everyone involved as it will mean men finally have to take their security, that has been a granted since time immemorial, into account and plan their day accordingly, much in the same way that women have had to do since the beginning of time.

@Kafirah There is no good reason for a man to act like this. None. Can't handle it? Don't seek prominence or a position of authority. Simple.

@CommonHuman Fear, paranoia, due diligence, irrationality, guilt, damage control, showboating, misogyny, sarcasm... there are several reasons for him to act that way... whether or not they are good/acceptable reasons is neither here nor there.

@Kafirah The reason to act this way is actually the point. It is another way to separate women out as the 'other' thus limiting them both socially and professionally.

@CommonHuman That may be one of the effects. But I don't see it as the only motivation.

@Kafirah Clarification. I didn't say it was the motivation, but to not deal with the motivation leads to this rather large effect. It is the main effect, yet again the fragile men among you are ensuring that women pay the price for some men's lack of self control or some men's own lack of self awareness. Take the burden upon yourself, instead of forcing women to compensate for yet another thing.

@CommonHuman Personally, I think if he is doing this due to a vow he made to his wife, he should bring her along. Problem solved. Unless he's making that shit up and blaming his wife for his misogyny, in which case she should do her own interview and set the record straight. Either way, the burden of supplying the chaperone should be on those making the demands. On the other hand, like any public figure, they have caveats and quid pro quos that must be met in exchange for their time. The reporter wants some of his time... he has set his caveats (ridiculous as they may be and for whatever valid or invalid reasons he sees fit), and if the reporter's parent company wants his time and the interview, they have no choice but to either accept the caveats or refuse them... beyond that, all they can do is complain and spread the word. In the end, it's all about perception, and he may have shot himself in the foot. Point of contention-- you used the word "you" twice in what could be misread as you were referring to me instead of the "universal you" infinitive... was that intentional? In other words, were you lumping me in with men in general? Because I'm not a man...

@Kafirah yes, a small percentage of sex assault accusations are false. So is a small percentage of robbery and assault and burglary accusations, etc. and yet people want to focus on the only one that allows them to mistreat and downright dehumanize one half of humanity. Fuck that.

@FreethoughtKaty I completely agree. And, as with most things, it's a doubled edged sword that cuts both ways.

@Kafirah not really. Not only are women historically and in present day subjected to extraordinary abuse in society, when they come forward, with a real accusation or a false one. But even when we know it’s true, men are rarely held to account. How often are rapists prosecuted, for example? This is an issue that harms sex crime victims. There is no “two sides” to this issue.

@Kafirah And how many men sitting in government -at this very moment- have been credibly accused of sex abuse? Screw the bullshit about “both sides”. Leave that ridiculous argument for the creationists.

@FreethoughtKaty There are indeed two sides to the issue, whether you choose to acknowledge that or not. There's her side, which I agree with, that he is a misogynist who is unfairly preventing her from doing her job... and there is his side, that he has set forth stipulations that he feels are necessary to maintain trust in his marriage and keep his nose clean, however unnecessary they may be.

FYI, Men get raped too, by both men and women, and they don't report it for many of the same reasons as women. Again, Two sides.

No one, especially me, a transwoman feminist, is saying that women haven't been shit on by men since the beginning of time for everything under the Sun simply because they are women. Also, again, I completely agree that male rapists are rarely held accountable for their horrific crimes, nor are they given sentences, when they are prosecuted, that even come close to being what they should.

That being said, just because you refuse to see that this particular issue has more factors to it than just misogyny does not mean I will cow tow and back down from the reality of my logically-crafted, rational, and factual argument because of your straw man false equivalency arguments or because you said so. WTF is with you fellow ladies not seeing that I agree with you that the gubernatorial asshat is in the wrong and that he is a misogynist and it is in effect keeping a woman from doing her job based solely on the fact that she is female??? But, just because I can see that doesn't mean I can't see the other side of the issue too. Seems like you are the narrow-minded one who refuses to look at conflicting evidence because it doesn't fit with your confirmationally biased worldview. Ignoring all the facts automatically puts you at a disadvantage in an argument. And if you are going to attack my argument by calling it ridiculous, be brave and/or thorough enough to back it up with reasons and/or data. Otherwise, leave the circular reasoning to the Christians.

@FreethoughtKaty Also, have we conveniently forgotten that the whole topic at hand is this politician doing what he thinks he needs to do to not be accused of any sexual misconduct, and is not a rapist (as far as we know), nor has he been accused of rape (as far as we know), and is therefore only guilty of being a misogynist asshat and nothing more? And, as far as he is concerned, he is trying to make sure that those allegations are as close to an impossibility as he can manage. The rest of your argument has almost nothing to do with the topic at hand, and is at the very least extraneous.

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I guess I see it as "If he's willing to do it alone with a reporter of one sex - he should be able to do it with the reporter of the other sex". The exact same things can go wrong in either case.
So if you're going to make rules based on spousal "vows" make them unilateral and not biased by sex FFS.

This is some backwards nonsense.

Frankly I think a GoPro strapped to each of their heads would babysit them both just fine.

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Maybe Heather is a dominatrix. He knows what she allows and what she does not allow. Look at the photo, its kind of obvious.

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Neither of them are fit to serve.

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They're talking about a 15-hr car ride. That's a long time.
Pence's dinner rule is ridiculous, but 15 hrs with someone you don't know at all?
I think a lot of people would hesitate.

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He should have asked her to bring along a female colleague - --- could have led to an amazingly intimate 'interview'

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My husband has been a private teacher for over 50 years...he has insisted that at least one parent stay with the child during lessons, especially if they are girls, but even with the boys.

In this climate of sexual abuse, I think it is a smart thing to do as long as it is across the board.

Why doesn't he bring a person?

I think this got blown up because he is a politician...if he were a doctor, no one would care...

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Dissenting Opinion: Straight out of the gate, this post may get me filet’d. I will do my best to explain. First, I am an NPR listening liberal and a feminist, an LGBTQIA Ally, and on your side. But I believe the way this story is being played and discussed is painfully incorrect and very twisted.

The NPR live interview today had live comments from the rebuffed reporter, and sound-bites from an interview with the politician. He notes in this “Me Too” time, that men must be careful of not only false accusations, but also simple insinuation. The reason for this is that at present, people are convicted by public opinion with a simple insinuation, now, more than ever, and, in particular, men are assumed guilty of crimes, both actual and of thought, just for being men. Men are assumed rapists because they are men. Men, particularly those in public office, or with authority, have become high level targets in this Me Too movement.

The reckoning that has come and is coming for some men, particularly in the recent years has been earned by SOME men. Those who have done the unspeakable, should be held to task. However, this news article is an effect of what I would coin, “the war on men”. Listen closely. At present, the war is not being waged against bad men, it is being waged against all men, manhood, manliness, and all that is androgenic. If you don’t believe this, check your own position in society. Men are being asked to do this same “checking” and so should you. White people have no right to speak about what it feels like as a black person. Are you a woman speaking about this? You have no right to say that there is no war waged on men, just as men have no right to say what you should do with your bodies. Are you a man speaking about this? You either know what I’m talking about, or you are living in denial and are at risk if you have anything to lose.

Equality is equality. If a person feels threatened, politically, emotionally or physically, they have a right to seek protection, IRRESPECTIVE OF GENDER. Many are forgetting that right now.

This reporter is a woman. She is using the newfound power of the Me Too movement, as a woman, to shame this man, and ruin him. Sadly, NPR was all up on the same bandwagon. If this man feels that it is appropriate to request a male escort, then this is his prerogative. It does not make him unfit for office. It actually makes him quite savvy in today’s time. These are the effects of the current war on men. The report has now placed this person on a hit list, the same list as a person who does not present their papers to gov’t authorities when stopped in the street. These are stop and frisk times for men. His request is the equivalent of stop and frisk protection for straight white men in politics. It is a must. He is not weak.

Yes, the chickens seems to be coming home to roost for men right now in the Me Too movement, but not all men are bad. Some men are becoming casualties of war and all they are trying to do is to protect themselves from false accusations. Sure, this request seems ridiculous, but this is a new time in society that must be acknowledged. This type of behavior is an inherent reaction to the Me Too movement, and it is surely correct. The only correct move when a possible threat appears is to move toward safety. His only safe option is to ask for an escort. This does not implicate him as being a bad man or anything else that anyone is accusing him of. The argument that he is a person that requires an escort to make sure he does not rape is on par with the townspeople insisting that if someone is a witch, they cannot be drowned. The accused dies no matter the outcome. This man/politician can do no right in the eyes of the townspeople with that mentality.

You will see more men in this same position taking the same actions. In the no-win situation that is created, it is the only safe option. Welcome to the present, and welcome to the future. This is a man simply trying to protect himself in what he perceives as a war on men.

“This is America - 2019” (TM). Have fun in the comments!! I’ll stay out of it.

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Phoney baloney

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Great politico from the South! At least he didn't insist to bring a 5 years old to have sex with!

zesty Level 7 July 11, 2019
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Look like wholesome middle class ‘Mericans to me. You can tell by their choice of matching shirt design. United in fashion, United in love!

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