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We can’t keep you from killing your own kids, but we can keep you from killing others. Time to home school your unvaccinated kiddos!

“Unvaccinated children not allowed by NY State to attend public schools starting today.”

[westchester.news12.com]

Apunzelle 7 Sep 24
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You who are planning to read this thread should be aware that "desertastronomer" is getting more & more confrontational yet hiding behind, "I am just asking questions". Been there, seen that, enough already with the passive-aggressive Crapola!

@AnneWimsey Did you mean that comment for this post? No one is being confrontational here ...?

Ok, I found what you’re referring to. It’s not the original poster (me) who’s being confrontational. It’s someone who responded to this posting. Just to clarify. 🙂

@Apunzelle so you do not consider posting "STFU" confrontational? Scroll down, read "desertastronomer's" comments.

@AnneWimsey I hadn’t seen that at first. But to again clarify, it’s not the OP (me) who is being confrontational. It’s a person who’s been commenting on my post.

@Apunzelle you are correct, and I amended my comment. Sorry!

@AnneWimsey No worries, love. 🙂

@AnneWimsey and @Apunzelle
This "just asking questions" routine is the basis of all scientific negationist movement. That is why I asked for articles and real science and not just the BS of "just asking questions".
And if you follow the discussion you will see I posted a link that contains articles and references that answers all his "just asked questions" but of course the questions are not there to be answered and the guy will refuse to seek the answers, even if i gave them on a silver plate =)

@desertastronomer "just asking questions" has become the great cop-out on here by the passive-aggressive bunch, who stir up a hornet's nest and then hide behind the "just asking" bushes. Boring, predictable, and damned nasty. "Censorship" my behind....how about some Honesty & Common Sense?

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And if you don't like it, eat the finest, non-GMO, organic shit.

If you shop at Aldi's it is All GMO-free, mostly organic, and MUCH cheaper than even Walmart!

@AnneWimsey plus the Aldi brands are usually just as good!

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It was that way when I was in school (I am 71) untll the bat-shit crazies took over. Time to return to common sense!

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Finally, a wall the fundamentalists can't climb.

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About time. Should be a national policy

@desertastronomer Give me scientific articles that back up your claims of STFU

@desertastronomer basically all your answers are based on false premises (like the one on mercury be toxic without taking into account the state of oxidation), or that the combination effects, safe ages are not studied.
You are simply using the wall of questions strategy, some are slippery slopes where you talk about adults and children.
"When do vaccinations stop?" what does question even mean? there are vaccines that need to be reapplied, so, it never stops.

With those questions you are showing that you and your gurus ignore or do not know the HUUUUUUGE scientific body of research on vaccines. Why would you keep asking questions that are already answer? Maybe to give idea that they do not have answers?

And look, just by spending some minutes on google found the wikipedia page (full of primary sources cited so HERE ARE YOUR ANSERS BASED ON REAL SCIENTIFIC PAPERS).
[en.wikipedia.org]

So good read and I hope you find your answers and stop reading misleading questions.

@desertastronomer learn some Facts, whydoncha...."mercury"???? Really? Maybe in 1956...which I would most certainly have been given, and, look! Still only 2 ears......

@desertastronomer I answered them with references to real science articles, is that enough for you?

@desertastronomer Lol, Wat I say is Vaccines are safe, they can be used at young age, they have no bad interaction, the mercury (inthe few that still have it) is in a form that is non toxic etc etc etc.And I gave you the link to the articles of serious studies that show it. But of course you refuse to read real science and will continue "just asking" even if the questions are already answered.
It does not matter how and who is giving you the knowledge, it is not the bad behaved guy on agnostic telling you this, it is a very good secondary source (wikipedia) with a very good list of primary sources (the articles in the references). If you really are asking questions with the intent to learn and solve honest doubts I gave you the meanings to answer them. But of course you prefer to bring this dispute to the personal level.

What I showed is that all your answrs are already answered by real science, but you refuse to look at the answers and will continue using the "just asking questions" routine to spread dangerous misinformation.

@desertastronomer For Big bang's sake, of course I will not make a looooooong list of all the claimed bad stuff on the vaccines because this list can go virtually forever as you can claim that anything including Hydrogen oxide can cause harm.
But yes, even those substances are in the article i posted, and as you are not found of opening links even if they contain your answers, let me paste here (for the sources just go to the link as I won't do YOUR homework)

Aluminium compounds are used as immunologic adjuvants to increase the effectiveness of many vaccines.[187] The aluminium in vaccines simulates or causes small amounts of tissue damage, driving the body to respond more powerfully to what it sees as a serious infection and promoting the development of a lasting immune response.[188][189] In some cases these compounds have been associated with redness, itching, and low-grade fever,[188] but the use of aluminium in vaccines has not been associated with serious adverse events.[187][190] In some cases, aluminium-containing vaccines are associated with macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF), localized microscopic lesions containing aluminium salts that persist for up to 8 years. However, recent case-controlled studies have found no specific clinical symptoms in individuals with biopsies showing MMF, and there is no evidence that aluminium-containing vaccines are a serious health risk or justify changes to immunization practice.[187][190] Infants are exposed to greater quantities of aluminium in daily life in breastmilk and infant formula than in vaccines.[3] In general, people are exposed to low levels of naturally occurring aluminium in nearly all foods and drinking water.[191] The amount of aluminium present in vaccines is small, less than 1 milligram, and such low levels are not believed to be harmful to human health.[191]

Vaccine hesitant people have also voiced strong concerns about the presence of formaldehyde in vaccines. Formaldehyde is used in very small concentrations to inactivate viruses and bacterial toxins used in vaccines.[192] Very small amounts of residual formaldehyde can be present in vaccines but are far below values harmful to human health.[193][194] The levels present in vaccines are miniscule when compared to naturally-occurring levels of formaldehyde in the human body and pose no significant risk of toxicity.[192] The human body continuously produces formaldehyde naturally and contains 50–70 times the greatest amount of formaldehyde present in any vaccine.[192] Furthermore, the human body is capable of breaking down naturally occurring formaldehyde as well as the small amount of formaldehyde present in vaccines.[192] There is no evidence linking the infrequent exposures to small quantities of formaldehyde present in vaccines with cancer.[192]

@desertastronomer And as I tought you would focus on anything else like the STFU other than the questions, and answers, this shows how irrelevant the questions are and you sole intention was to spread science denying ideas

@desertastronomer Ok, lets deal with the questions
Which toxins and followed by articles (scientific ones) that shows that they are harmfull in any concentrations?
Otherwise you are making a question with premisses that are not true.
It is like I question you; Have you stopped sacrificing children to Satan?
See, I started with a (i hope) false premisse, thus the question itself makes no sense.

So, show me the articles in which your question are based or stop making it as it makes no sense.

The text I pasted for example shows that formalseide in vaccines are in lower concentration than they are in your body, plus the body can break it down, so no risk of accumulating.

Now if you use generic toxins it becomes a question impossible to answer because for any substance I answer you can come up with a new one. So first show me the substance, which vaccine and some article that supports your claim that it is toxic in the concentration and amount at the vaccines.

@desertastronomer I repeat, it would be great if you learned some info later than circa 1956. Period.

@desertastronomer, @Pedrohbds nice, factual post, and we all wish Certain posters would make an attempt to read & understand it...but sadly, my money is on nooooooooooo

@Pedrohbds, @desertastronomer actually, the Alzhiemers/ aluminum connection was thoroughly debunked about 2 decades ago, and several times since then. But, why would Facts mean anything to you?

@Pedrohbds, @desertastronomer "childhood diseases" are far from limited by age, anyone can carry & spread ALL of them. So, yeah, keep your grubby germ-laden self indoors with shut windows, thankyuverymuch.

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